NHL Morning Coffee Headlines – September 12, 2012.

NHL & NHLPA to meet again in NY City, the two sides agree on rules for returning players to junior & the minors prior to a lockout, the effect of a lockout upon the Canadian economy, potential winners and losers of an NHL lockout, KHL established criteria for locked out NHL players joining their league, and Marian Gaborik’s recovery from shoulder surgery.

TSN.CA: The NHL and NHLPA intend to meet again in New York this morning prior to the PA’s meeting this afternoon in what is being considered a last-ditch effort to prevent a lockout. Several hundred players are expected to attend the PA meetings today and Thursday, while the NHL Board of Governors will meet with league commissioner Gary Bettman on Thursday, when he’ll update them on the status of negotiations with the PA.

Will the latest meetings prevent a lockout?

SPORTSNET.CA: Michael Grange isn’t holding out hope for a resolution to emerge from today’s meetings.

COLUMBUS DISPATCH: The NHL and NHLPA did agree, however, to rules regarding the returning of players to junior or to the minor leagues before a potential lockout. The first rule allows teams to return their top prospects to junior and recall them if a lockout is ended during this season. The other creates a window for clubs to return minor league players not on two-way entry-level deals to be passed through waivers and returned to their farm teams prior to midnight Saturday.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Oh sure, they can agree to those two things, but not on a new CBA to avoid another lockout.

THE HUFFINGTON POST: Daniel Tencer on how a lockout could affect the overall Canadian economy, referring to one economist who suggested it could shave off around $1.8 billion of GDP.

ESPN.COM: Craig Custance lists the potential winners and losers of an NHL lockout. The biggest losers, of course, will be arena workers, hotels, bars and other businesses in NHL cities which rely on the league for a significant portion of their income.

NBC SPORTS PRO HOCKEY TALK: cited a report from Yahoo! Sports’ Dmitry Chesnokov on certain rules the KHL will establish for locked-out NHL players hoping to join their league. Among them:

– 150 NHL games played over the last three seasons

– Must have previous KHL experience

– A national team member in one of the last two World Championships, World Junior Championships, or Olympic teams

– A Stanley Cup winner or finalist or an NHL award winner of another kind

To add to this, the KHL will only pay up to 65 percent of an NHL player’s contract so even if you want to go get paid, you’re not going to get it all.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: So in other words, the KHL wants only the best available NHL talent.

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS: Marian Gaborik is back in New York and skating again, hoping to return sometime in November from off-season shoulder surgery, provided there’s no lockout.


  1. Great comment about the Dispatch link Lyle. This only proves that there is going to be a lockout and both sides (which really is no suprise unfortunately). It makes you wonder what “core” issues have been discussed if they’ve hammered out this seemingly minor detail agreement.

  2. Can either side give in now?

    If either side does, they loose face to the public and the other side.

    If the owners relent they look like they were faking the issues all along. Something that will cause them great difficulty in the next negotiations.(which I think they are. No business person runs a business at a loss and wants to keep doing it. Hence the reason the former owner of the Preds was so willing to bail out and dump the team on Jim Ballsilly. They are billionaires for a reason and its not because they loose money)

    If the players give in, they will be forever marked as weak and the owners will refuse them everything and try and take them apart one bite at a time.

    So how does anyone save face here??? They have a lockout and then one side gives in and they work out a partial deal similar to what has been offered. Or the contract is more of a give and take.

    Even saying we did it for the fans won’t work and they know that. It’s millions of dollars they are fighting over. Sorry, It’s millions of OUR dollars they are fighting over.

  3. What a mess. Maybe the CBA should be settled by a NASCAR arbiter… Makes me feel great shame to be a Rangers fan. Somehow I get the feeling the Rangers ownership are a big part of the problem. Guess I’ll sit in the box and feel shame like an English pig….

    Off-topic, it seems the square Newegg ad is not playing nice with your layout. I’ve noticed on a couple article pages this morning it floats to the top of the left column; however, on other pages ads of the same format appear below the double-column of ads. Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/73uQt.jpg

  4. Are there absolutely 0 pics of Fehr and Bettman together? i don’t believe I’ve seen one yet…

  5. I just finished listening to one of the self-described media “insiders” on TV, and given his pro-player stance, I was surprised to hear him say something an uninformed loudmouth like myself has been saying all along, that “whether you think it’s right or wrong, there is no way the league starts up again with revenue sharing not at 50/50. Especially given the new NBA and NFL agreements, the owners are not going to even consider anything else”. Also he made it quite clear that he believes (as do I) that once again there is no way the league starts again without a 10 – 15% rollback to get to that 50/50 position. But he also said something that I hadn’t thought of. That even though all parties involved know where things will likely end up, that there is no way the roll over just to start the season. That they have to send their own message that fine, they may lose the war in the long run (inevitable) they are going to fight every inch along the way. So to summarize, no matter whether you are pro-player or pro-owner, this is less about money than about pride. Also, as far as “pressure” to negotiate, the players are in no rush as they get escrow checks in October. The pressure for both parties doesnt mount until the new year, with the Winter Classic pressure for the league and the lack of paychecks for the players.