NHL Morning Rumor Mill – January 17, 2013.

The latest on P.K. Subban, Wade Redden, Dmitry Kulikov, plus updates on the Bruins and Blues.

THE SPORTING NEWS: Sean Gentille wonders how realistic it might be for Montreal Canadiens defenseman P.K. Subban to sign an offer sheet from another club. Subban’s contract talks with the Habs appear stalled, leading Gentille to suggest the possibility of someone like Philadelphia Flyers GM Paul Holmgren or Boston Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli to take a run at him via offer sheet.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: One can’t rule out the offer sheet option, but the Canadiens aren’t a low budget team where a rival might be able to successfully sign away a player via offer sheet. The Habs will match any offer for Subban. Besides, let’s not forget that, since the offer sheet option was introduced back in 2005, only one player (Dustin Penner) has been successfully signed away by one. Even the usually cost conscious Nashville Predators matched the Flyers hefty offer last summer for Shea Weber.

Could Redden join the Red Wings?

Could Redden join the Red Wings?

DETROIT FREE PRESS: Helene St. James reports the Red Wings are examining the possibility of signing NY Rangers defenseman Wade Redden if the Blueshirts opt buy out the remainder of his contract before the season starts on January 19th.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Believe it or not, the Red Wings aren’t the only team which could have interest in signing Redden as a UFA if the Blueshirts buy him out by Saturday. Redden is no longer considered an all-star blueliner, but has value as an experienced depth defenseman.

Speaking of compliance buyout candidates, there’s whispers the San Jose Sharks, Chicago Blackhawks and Vancouver Canucks might have interest in Montreal Canadiens center Scott Gomez once he’s bought out of the remainder of his contract.

MIAMI HERALD: George Richards reports Florida Panthers assistant GM Mike Santos has spoken with RFA defenseman Dmitry Kulikov on two occasions but has nothing new to report on a new contract. Kulikov is no longer on the roster of his KHL team.

ESPN.COM: Joe MacDonald and James Murphy don’t foresee the Boston Bruins making any trades entering this shortened season, but Murphy feels GM Peter Chiarelli won’t hesitate to make a deal later in the season to help his club in the playoffs. Murphy noted rumors from last year linking the Bruins with Phoenix Coyotes defenseman Keith Yandle and Anaheim Ducks right wing Bobby Ryan, listing Bruins David Krejci, Milan Lucic and Andrew Ference rumored to be possible trade candidates.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Coyotes apparently aren’t keen to move Yandle, but if they were, they’d want a reliable scoring forward, which rules out Krejci.  It would cost at least Lucic to pry Bobby Ryan out of Anaheim, but I have my doubts the Bruins wish to move him.

BND.COM: Norm Sanders reports the St. Louis Blues are still seeking blueline depth.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Perhaps they might be interested in Wade Redden once the Rangers buy him out?


  1. I agree Montreal would match any offer for Subban, which is all the more reason why a team should send him a massive offer sheet. If the Habs are going to sign Subban anyway a rival team might as well force them to overpay him, further increasing Montreal’s cap troubles for next season.

    • There’s also the possibility of that backfiring. If you sign Subban to a massive deal, and the Habs do not match, well, you have a massive deal on your hands. :)

  2. With Subban, we go through this every year it seems with a player or two. Last year Doughty sat out of training camp and signed right before the Kings left for Europe. I suspect Subban will sign a contract shortly before the season starts. As for offer sheets, they’re like big foot. We hear lots of stories but never actually see one.

    Redden signing with the Red Wings would be outstanding. The Red Wings are masters of rehabilitating players. He’ll be going to the perfect situation and the Red Wings will get good value out of him. Hopefully Gomez signs somewhere too. Both got raw deals.

    You’d think the Rangers have learned their lesson, but you know they haven’t. They’ll just keep signing guys to overpriced contracts.

    • How did Gomez get a raw deal?Massive amounts of money for no production,sounds more like a sweet deal to me

      • I know I’m responding late…

        Gomez got a raw deal because he signed a long term contract with the Rangers, and played well. In two seasons with the Rangers he got 70 and 58 points. That’s not bad at all. Then he was traded to a Montreal team that wasn’t very good. In 09-10 he had 59 points. In the playoffs that season he had 14 points in 19 games. In 10-11 he had 38 points. In the playoffs he had 4 points in 7 games. 2011-2012 he didn’t play much and didn’t have a ton of points, but Montreal was terrible, finishing last in the east.

        So to answer the question of how he got a raw deal: Gomez signed for big money with the Rangers, a cup contender, and put up nice points. He got cast aside by the Rangers purely for cap reasons – so the Rangers could sign the new free agent toy (Gaborik I believe) – and was sent to a team on the decline.

        Everybody is acting like Gomez signed a big money deal and then turned into a bum and just mailed it in. Gomez was a great player. I think he still is at the least a good player who can help a team. And to be buried a bottom-feeder like Montreal (sorry Canadiens fans, nothing personal) sucks. I could easily see Gomez putting up 40 to 50 points on the right team.

  3. @ JDBigC

    Not to create a confrontation with you ….but how did Gomez get a raw deal ….he was worth $1.38 million per goal he scored with the HABS ????

    Trade his ass ….right now !!! Del Zotto has better numbers than Subban and is better defesively and signs for less than $3 million …what has Subban done other than pen his mouth to be a sounding board for the NHl …he is your average bottom 4 d man who like to use the body ….and the Oilers got Fistric who is just like Subban SAME TYPE PLAYER for next to nothing …Subban is not a goal scorer he is a checker not worth it …the only thing hampering this deal is his popularity …I would say in the best interest of the team collectively you have to trade him ..he has now become nothing but a distraction every year about something !!! High maintenance !! Has to go !!!…….D men are a hot commodity right now they can get a good return and save money and improve for the future instead !!

    • Dude either you never watch the Habs or you don’t know much about hockey. Subban played more minutes than any other D last year. He also leads the D in points, PP and PK time. Del Zotto is not the Rangers #1 D. Comparable age and stats, but not in responsibilities or value.

  4. LEAFS

    Connoly on waivers …THANK GOODNESS !!!!! Wow finally …. is Nonis clearing cap with moving just about $8 million in two players…Both on last year of deal so teams wouldny be on th hook when cap comes down next year ..friendly pick ups for this season and next not a long term hamper!

  5. You know Buffalo has a glut of D – and I’m sure they would be listen to offers for Leopold, Sekera, Pardy, Regehr or Weber as they have players in Rochester that are ready to move up. While I know the Sabres were looking for a Center – they have resigned Hecht who is healthy, has skill and is good on the PK and they are also giving Grigorenko a good look. From what I hear, he is doing well and has a good chance to hang around when the season begins (beyond his 5 game look). Buffalo has some good prospects in the pipline and I think its just a matter of finding chemistry.

    I think what the Sabres do need is a “goalie” – I don’t believe Enroth is the answer and because the Sabres have some excess talent – maybe a team will offer up a prospective Goalie.

    • thats where your wrong. Enroth is a future starter. Much better outlook on hime then Martin Biron back in the day. He will take the starters role over once Miller leaves after next season…

      On that subject hey Spector do you think Miller will leave Buffalo after next season? It’s a huge year for the Sabres that year Ennis, Pominville and Vanek are all UFA’s that year including Miller…

      • Correction Ennis is RFA

  6. Hi Steve …I had season tickets the last two years in Buffalo ….however Iam a Leaf fan and a Hockey guy !

    Buffalo has some very good promise !!! I really think they should keep Enroth …he is a very solid back up and better than 90% of the league and quite possibly better than some starters!
    I have to question why the Sabers are not all in with Luke Adam …this guy was very good last year and very impressive and played much better all around game then Hodgson …I also have to sya you have a good keeper in Foligno ..he was fantastic as well… big guy who can skate take the body and play safe hockey and special teams for you !! I hope the Sabres retain Adam and give him another shot ..Id take him on my team if not!! Buffalos problem is they are a First period team and a Third period tem ..they loose all there games in the second period!

    • I agree with you Buffalo is in good shape. Last year it really came down to a 20+ game stretch last year around Nov-Jan where Miler was out, 2 of Erhroff, Myers, and Regehr were out and Ennis and a few other forwards were out. Outside of those 20+ games they played at the same level as the top teams in the easter conference. This isnt a rebuilding project.

      Buffalo will likely set up some sort of rotation among the defensemen giving the big 3 an occasional rest on back to backs. Look for them to trade Leopold since he is in his walk year or Sekera. Sekera should get mpre back given his cap friendly contract.

      I also wouldnt be surprised they plan Brennan more just to feature him as well to try to increase the trade value. Assuming no serious injuries, they move one within a month.

      The most logical teams would be St Louis and LA for trading Defenseman and getting a forward in return.

      Adam needs a change of scenery.Ruffs treatment serious shook his confidence.

  7. Slats will have to finally quit over-paying for mediocre talent such as Gomez and Redden. But furthermore, he needs great success from his new 24 million dollar 1st line. If any of those three under- achieve or go down with injury the Rangers will not improve over last season.

  8. @ Curtis Coulter …..remember you have Krieder coming up ….thats a big plus that can be put into different roles …6 foot 3 speedy guy for his size great hands physical ….he can play on the top two lines if need be!

    Hes a bonus this year …great prospect! ….hagelin and Asham are great role guys and Asaham can score hes not just a rolel player, great informnt of the net gritty goals that they need…… they should be improved on the power play this year as well! …IMO

  9. Waiver flood gates are open !!!

    Interesting noteables about this group are : Lelan Irving and Karlsson of Calgary ….Palmierei ( Min) Connolly

    Waivers today: Angelidis, Wyman, Wilson, Taormina (TB). Cannone (OTT). Chorney (STL). Tardif (BOS). Van Der Gulik (COL). Holden (CBJ).

    More waivers: Connolly (TOR). Joslin, Gordon (VAN). Wallace (CAR). Bodnarchuk (LAK). N Palimieri, Dowell, Veilleux (MIN).

    More waivers: Blunden, St. Denis (MTL). Byron, Carson, Irving, Karlsson (CGY), Connor, C Johnson, N Johnson, Klinkhammer, Rechlicz (PHX).

    Just to keep you guys up to speed !!!

  10. The Canadiens should just sign him for whatever he wants right now and if he doesnt live up to expectations, buy him out in the summer and resign him for less

  11. @ BartdudeMTL
    Why so insulting ….. Yes I watch a lot of hockey both live and on TV …
    Del Zotto and Subban are very similar ….Del Zotto finished 18th and Subban 28th last year for all defenseman in the NHL 2012 season …. which is fine ….DEl Zotto has better stats BUT not by much in goals assista dn PTS
    I think Subban is a quality D man but not at $5 million to $6 million a year ….sorry ………..so what you are saying is that Subban is worth more than 90% of the defesnman in the league …what has he done ???

    Subban has only played 160 games in the NHL in 2 and half years and is asking between $5 & $6 million a year?? WTF …Iam not sure why you would want to handcuff your organization like that considering the New CBA next year …you will be sacrificing better players long term at some point !!

    Iam sorry I woudn’t do it ….not a HABS fan but Id like to see them improve …and by doing that it would be harder to put a better p[rodcut on the ice over the long term Subban yes is a very GOOD Defensman but not the franchise …Galchenyuk is !!!!

    1 Zdeno Chara Boston 33 $7,500,000 $7,500,000
    2 Brian Campbell Chicago 31 $7,140,000 $7,140,000
    3 Jay Bouwmeester Calgary 26 $6,680,000 $6,600,000
    4 Dan Boyle San Jose 33 $6,667,000 $6,667,000
    T5 Wade Redden NY Rangers 33 $6,500,000 $6,500,000
    Ed Jovanovski Phoenix 34 $6,500,000 $6,000,000
    Dion Phaneuf Toronto 25 $6,500,000 $7,000,000
    8 Kimmo Timonen Philadelphia 35 $6,333,000 $7,000,000
    9 Nicklas Lidstrom Detroit 40 $6,200,000 $6,200,000
    10 Brian Rafalski Detroit 36 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
    T11 Bryan McCabe Florida 35 $5,750,000 $4,150,000
    Andrei Markov Montreal 31 $5,750,000 $5,750,000
    13 Lubomir Visnovsky Anaheim 33 $5,600,000 $6,000,000
    14 Duncan Keith Chicago 26 $5,551,000 $8,000,000
    T15 Roman Hamrlik Montreal 36 $5,500,000 $5,500,000
    Sergei Gonchar Ottawa 36 $5,500,000 $5,500,000
    17 Sheldon Souray Edmonton 33 $5,400,000 $4,500,000
    18 Mike Green Washington 24 $5,250,000 $5,000,000
    T19 Michal Rozsival NY Rangers 31 $5,000,000 $4,000,000
    Paul Martin Pittsburgh 29 $5,000,000 $5,000,000
    21 Chris Pronger Philadelphia 35 $4,921,000 $7,600,000
    T22 Ron Hainsey Atlanta 29 $4,500,000 $5,000,000
    Scott Hannan Colorado 31 $4,500,000 $4,500,000
    Shea Weber Nashville 24 $4,500,000 $4,500,000
    Mike Komisarek Toronto 28 $4,500,000 $6,000,000
    Dan Hamhuis Vancouver 27 $4,500,000 $5,000,000
    T27 Anton Volchenkov New Jersey 28 $4,250,000 $4,250,000
    Eric Brewer St. Louis 31 $4,250,000 $4,500,000
    Tomas Kaberle Toronto 32 $4,250,000 $4,250,000
    T30 John-Michael Liles Colorado 29 $4,200,000 $4,425,000
    Keith Ballard Vancouver 27 $4,200,000 $4,200,000

    • My only comment in this is that Montreal sucked last year while NY was very strong. So, inflated stats on a good team vs. decent stats on a crap team does play a huge role is assessing the players value.

  12. @Dan

    Brennan isn’t going anywhere guy. He’s staying here for the forseeable future.

    Agree on Adam he’s done in Buffalo. I’d really like to get in on the Perry/Ryan Sweepstakes. He’d be a good addition to a package to get one of them.

  13. Think about Redden in San Jose. It is close to his Kelowna home and has played with Joe Thornton on Team Canada.

  14. I think Redden would be a great fit on the Wings bottom 6.

    As for Subban. He is Montreals best Defensemen since Markov never plays and is one of the faces of the team. It’s not all about stats. From what I am hearing its more a matter of years rather than money for Subban.

  15. The Isle need to move on from Visnovsky now. Trade him away to Edmonton for Smid and Gagner.

  16. A successful offer sheet to PK would have to be in the 6-7M dollar range..If the offer sheet is successful, I will take the premium picks..All 4 of them..