NHL Morning Rumor Mill – January 29, 2014

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Could the Rangers move Ryan Callahan and Dan Girardi at the trade deadline?

Could the Rangers move Ryan Callahan and Dan Girardi at the trade deadline?

ESPN.COM: Pierre LeBrun reports contract talks apparently aren’t going well between the NY Rangers and team captain Ryan Callahan, sparking rumors the club could shop him if he’s not re-signed by the trade deadline…Contract talks continue between the Sharks and defenseman Dan Boyle but they’re not close to a deal. The Sharks could seek a one-year deal (based on Boyle’s over-35 status) while the blueliner could seek a two-year deal… Maple Leafs center Nazem Kadri is ignoring the trade rumors swirling around him…LeBrun wouldn’t be surprised if the Penguins move a young defenseman to land a short-term replacement for injured winger Pascal Dupuis. He also wonders if a few teams might contact the Pens about Kris Letang, whose eight-year, $58 million contract kicks in next season. He says he has no evidence the Penguins are shopping Letang…He believes Ray Whitney might welcome a trade at the deadline if the Stars are out of playoff contention by then.

Craig Custance reports Florida Panthers GM Dale Tallon has no intention of trading goalie Tim Thomas by the trade deadline, though he said if Thomas requested a trade he’d honor that request…During a recent live chat, Custance believes the Kings could have interest in NY Islanders winger Thomas Vanek but won’t overpay for a rental player…He considers the Senators to be buyers… The Hurricanes would like to get a player (preferably a defenseman) who could help them immediately for one of their goalies. They’ll probably instead have to accept draft picks or prospects…If the Penguins trade defenseman Simon Despres it’ll be for help at forward…He likes the Wild as a destination for Sabres goalie Ryan Miller…He thinks the Ducks might have interest in David Legwand but won’t move a prospect like Emerson Etem for a playoff rental…

TSN.CA: Darren Dreger claims the Rangers are gauging Ryan Callahan’s value in the trade market. There’s lots of interest in Dan Girardi but the Rangers feel more confident about re-signing him. Bob McKenzie reports Callahan seeks a seven-year, $6 million per season deal while Girardi seeks a seven-year deal comparable to the Blues’ Jay Bouwmeester ($5.4 million per season)…McKenzie believes the trade market for Buffalo’s Ryan Miller as lukewarm. The Wild haven’t made an offer as they’re awaiting what happens with Josh Harding’s health situation, while the Blues have lukewarm interest.

CBC.CA: Elliotte Friedman also touched on Dan Boyle’s contract status, believing the Sharks could offer a one-year deal with bonuses which, for a player of Boyle’s age, can carry over to next season…While the Islanders’ Thomas Vanek and Buffalo’s Matt Moulson haven’t rule out re-signing with their respective clubs, a lot of teams are interested in Moulson, and Friedman believes the Blues could be in on Vanek, having interest in him back in October…Friedman’s heard from a couple of sources Erik Cole wants out of Dallas but his agent denies it…He also touched on the possibility of Stars forward Ray Whitney moving at the trade deadline…Coyotes pending UFA defenseman Derek Morris has popped up in the rumor mill, but moving him leaves a banged-up Zbynek Michalek as their only right-handed shot on the blueline…The Canadiens and Penguins are seeking size…Friedman wonders if the Oilers moving Sam Gagner to wing during a recent game against the Penguins was to showcase him at that position…

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Lots to discuss today, rumor fans. Regarding the Callahan & Girardi rumors, remember back in the fall when Henrik Lundqvist’s contract talks were reportedly going nowhere, only to see him re-signed? Bear that in mind regarding the Callahan and Girardi rumors. Sure, one of them could be moved at the deadline, but I don’t think it’s a certainty…I expect the Sharks will get something done with Boyle, probably a two-year deal…I don’t believe the Penguins have any interest in moving Letang. If they did, the best time would be this summer, when teams with more cap space are more willing to make big moves…Legwand could be trade bait but the Predators will seek a decent return, preferably a young forward…If Miller gets traded it’ll be at the trade deadline. As for the Wild, if Darcy Kuemper keeps playing well in Josh Harding’s absence they’ll have little reason to part with quality assets for a rental player like Miller…If the Blues would have trouble taking on Miller’s salary, why would they want Vanek’s?…Unless the Coyotes fall completely out of the playoff picture I don’t think they’ll trade Morris… Same goes for the Stars and Whitney…Gagner’s name has fallen off the rumor charts of late. Probably because the Oilers’ asking price is too high.

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS: Pat Leonard also reports on Ryan Callahan’s contract talks, claiming his agent remains optimistic a deal can be done. Leonard believes if Callahan isn’t re-signed by the trade deadline Callahan could put talks on hold and test free agency rather than allow negotiations to be a distraction while he focuses on the Rangers’ playoff race. The Rangers have also opened preliminary contract talks with Mats Zuccarello.

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks reports of no progress between the Rangers and Callahan and Girardi, with wide gulfs existing between the club and the two players.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I still have doubts the Rangers trade either player while in the thick of the playoff chase. 

NJ.COM: Rich Chere reports long-time Devils goalie Martin Brodeur wouldn’t be shocked if the team wanted to trade him.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I doubt very much that happens. They’ll want to keep Brodeur in case Cory Schneider gets injured or struggles down the stretch.

DALLAS MORNING NEWS: Mike Heika lists Ray Whitney and Vernon Fiddler as the most likely trade candidates if the Stars fall out of playoff contention by the trade deadline. Others could include Erik Cole, Sergei Gonchar, Stephane Robidas and perhaps Ryan Garbutt.

RDS.CA: Luc Gelinas claims the reason a proposed deal which would’ve shipped Rene Bourque to Colorado for P.A. Parenteau fell through because the Avalanche wanted prospect Sven Andrighetto.

OTTAWA SUN: Don Brennan claims everyone expects Eric Gryba is the Senators’ most-likely trade candidate.

42 Comments

  1. If Callahan is seeking a 7 year-$6m deal the Rangers should trade him for a good young player and high picks. He’s injured too frequently and isn’t fitting in to Vigneaults team/system as well as he did with Tortorella. Don’t get me wrong, Callahan would go through a wall for you but given his injury history and he’s not looking as productive I think the Rangers would be wise to trade him for a good return to get some more young quality in to the line up. Sign Girardi up and with the possibility of buying out Richards this Summer the Rangers could have a lot to spend and get Vigneaults blueprint on this team and get them to the next level.

  2. Was at the Tampa Leafs game last nighty….Nonis better think real hard and long about trading Kadri.
    WOW!….what a goal he scored off the rush MAGIC HASNDS! You can not give up on this kid this early hes still to young ! Sure you can say hes streaky but so is Kessel and hes one of the best scorers in the league over the past 5 years !

    Rangers
    What is Sather thinking here…I mean Callahan and Girardi are the lifeblood & heart and soul of this team, you gave away money to players like Gaborik and Richards and Lundqvist ….ETC and the guys who actually deserve it over the past few years your going to treat them this way ….makes no sense to me …cap is going up …buyout Richards and that will be plenty of money and some left over. They squandered millions and now all of a sudden there locking up the bank on two really good guys!
    These guys are in there prime , young and very talented they are core guys to build around …unless your going to clean house …and if you are then why sign Lundqvist for so much for so long …cause he will just waste away in a rebuild !

    • Sather isn’t thinking anything….at least not out loud. This is all speculation, more media doing the thinking than Sather. But as far as Lundqvist goes, he was part of the core that brought the Rangers back from the joke of 98-04. He carried that team on his back a lot the last 7 years. Without out him, I’m not sure they even made the playoffs some of those years. I’d like them to retain both Callahan and Girardi. But I don’t want to do it at the expense of the future either. 6 per for Callahan is a good starting point for negotiations…..but that is all that number looks good for, a starting point. Sather would be an idiot if he jumped on the 1st number they put out there. All that being said, I think the core of this team is changing at the moment. A few years ago it Was Staal, Girardi, Callahan, Dubinsky , Lundqvist. I don’t think that most fans or ownership, management would see the 4 remaining players as the core going forward.

      • So then who is the core …….and are you saying blow it up…….and if so why would you waste a rebuild with Lundqvist at his money or in net….2 months ago Kreider was in the minors and a phone call away from being shipped out…..is Zuccarello part of your core …seems wishy… whashy!

        • Trading Callahan isn’t what I would consider “blowing it up” the team. I think that Girardi without question will be re-signed. Callahan, I’m not so sure. If he and his agent are going to sit on 6 million and be firm at that number, he is as good as gone. Kreider was NEVER a phone call from going anywhere, and you really can’t say much about his time in the minors because that was more of mismanagement issue than anything else. Zuccarello “Wishy washy”? Why? He is 2nd on the team in points, 3rd in assists, 2nd in goals top 4 in ice time among forwards. That is “wishy washy”? Either way, I never said he was part of the core. But he should remain with NY. Mcdonagh, Stepan, Kreider, Nash, Girardi and Lundqvist I would consider the new core of NY. Sure, you could add or subtract Callahan on that list. But at 6 million it makes it an easy decision on managements part to do that subtraction.

          • As per Lyles post here back in October November…when Krieder was in the minors early in the season, Krieder was a phone call away from being traded he was being shopped heavy!

            How is your captain not worth $6 plus million ….hes a perennial 20 plus goal scorer , I dare say that most NHL Captains are worth the $6 plus million per team !
            Especially in that market.
            IMO

          • You don’t pay a captain, to just be a captain. And just because they have overpaid players , as do a lot of other teams doesn’t mean they should commit 7 years at 6 million to Callahan. Top players in the league get 7-8.5 million per against the cap, Stamkos, Giroux, Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin…. how does a 20 goal scorer, 40-50 point guy = 6 million? I know that free agency (post lock out) has pushed mediocre players into insane contracts but I think NY has to show a little restraint here. Most of those bad contracts Gm’s are kicking themselves over a year into the deal. And don’t get me wrong, I love the way Callahan plays. But as EVERY NY fan would agree, it is also part of his problem with injuries. He has to be a little more realistic about either the length or $ amount of that deal.

          • I wouldn’t go off the rumors as far as Kreider is concerned. That is why they are called rumors. As a Ranger fan, I never heard any serious chatter coming out of NY about moving Kreider. Yes the bleacher report, Edmonton Journal etc…..but does anyone take either of the 2 serious? They have mentioned about every player being traded. As a matter of fact the exact opposite has been said about Kreider. That he is basically untouchable.

          • I agree with keeping Girardi and trading Callahan, Ryan deserves a contract around 5M per for 4 years. IMO.

      • @ NYR4LIFE

        Iam shocked you don’t see the Captain in a new contract being a $6 million player ….wow!
        He was also considered to be the Captain for team USA which means hes one of the top USA players in the game or at least top 3 in his country ….id say that’s a pretty high quality NHL player for a $6 million price tag !

        What do you pay the Rangers Captain then ….insult him with a $5 million offer …Id be going to free agency as well then if I were him.

        Am I off here or what

        • So, because he’s been considered for the captaincy of Team USA, that makes him one of the top 3 players in the country? Where do you come up with this stuff? I’m not even sure Callahan is one of the top 3 players on the Rangers, let alone the USA.
          I agree with NYRLIFE. I don’t think he’s worth $6 mill either.

          • Yeah….I’m sorry. I’m a huge Ranger fan, a big Callahan fan. He is NOT a top 3 American born player. The US did not build a team of great players. They built a team of great defensive and 2 way players to shut Canada down, not out score them imo.If I had to compare Callahan to any NHL player it would be Dustin Brown. Both captains, very similar style of play, nearly same age. However Brown puts up higher numbers with less injury problems and is under 6 million himself. Callahan is a 40-50 point guy per season. And those numbers aren’t going to go up very much, if at all at 28 for the next 7 years. You cannot pay 40-50 point guys 6 million per, no matter how good of a leader they are….

          • @Chaas,
            Lets not forget they have 12-13 roster spots to either replace or re-sign. They cannot just “pay the guy”. There are plenty of possible options and directions for them to take in the offseason. And if they can’t come to terms with him by the deadline, bring in the prospects they lack in their system to help fill the void. Paying the guy for 7 years will only end up with the fans paying in misery.

        • Currently Callahan has a cap hit of $4.275.
          Here’s a few current captains, cap hit in millions starting next season:
          Dustin Brown $5.875 (Stanley Cup winning captain)
          Shane Doan $5.3 (very loyal to team, better scorer than Callahan)
          David Backes $4.5 (a slightly better scorer than Callahan)
          Andrew Ladd $4.4

          I think 5 million is about the upper limit for Callahan on the Rangers.

          • @Greg
            Excellent comparisons. I also agree, Callahan is a 5-5.5 guy. But I still would not lay that out for 7 years. 4 max.

          • This entire discussion missed out on the bigger point to all this. If Callahan becomes a UFA and leaves for greener pastures, the Rangers lack the depth to replace him from within. That means they have to go out and find a replacement in the UFA market. Can’t upgrade for less than $6 Million. Could get a downgrade but what’s the point in paying to make the team worse? Pay the guy.

          • All of those contracts were done prior to the players breaking out and becoming the players they are now …..Brown and Backes are $7 million players now but they screwed themselves by signing long term contracts at less money . They are screwed now …especially Backes

            Callahan is a comparable for sure …but he is just as important to the rangers than the guys you just mentioned to there respective teams !

        • I love our captain and everything, but he’s injury prone and hasn’t been the same all year long. A 7 year deal is a ridiculously long time for someone with his health issue.

          He’s a fine captain, but it doesn’t really matter when you can’t stay on the ice and play like you used to or can because of the injuries. You have to get what you can for someone who used to be a strong star like Callahan.

        • Parise, Kane, Kessel…three names off the top of my head who are american and better than Callahan..

      • It wouldn’t shock me at all to learn that some of these rumours are floated by GMs or agents as a part of the bargaining process. Sather could well be trying to leverage these guys into taking less than they are asking for if they want to stay in NY.

        I agree that Callahan shouldn’t get 6 per. If you want to win as a team then the players need to all leave a little bit on the table so that you can afford to fill in the squad around them. In part that’s what a “captain” should do.

  3. Just a thought on Brodeur …after some thinking yesterday…if Miller is going to cost so much for a rental should the Wild pursue Marty Brodeur instead ….this could be a really good fit for both player and teams …the Wild have some veteran guys and Marty will fit right in …plus he will be meeting up with Parise who is a good friend …this may be a very… very …..very good fit !

    • @Backchecking, I was just thinking that myself on this fine “below zero” morning! Marty would fit in for sure, plenty of playoff experience and Zachs good friend. Maybe a good question to ask is, is he better than Miller? Fletcher is supposedly waiting to see if Hards is coming back and to what capacity? IF that trade were to happen, they could try moving Backstrom at the deadline, no one wants him here!

      • Seems like a good fit
        here is Marty yesterday when asked about being moved !

        •Chad Graff: There is no truth to the rumor that the Wild made an offer to the Sabres for Ryan Miller.
        •myNHLTradeRumors: Nick Kypreos said on HC @ Noon that the Capitals are kicking tires on Ryan Miller.
        •Neil Greenberg: Kevin Weekes on Sabres Ryan Miller: “I also see [#Caps] being a potential fit. Both St. Louis & WSH have young goalies in return as assets.” The Capitals have $750, 128 in cap space to absorb Miller’s $6.25 million salary cap hit. Greenberg doesn’t see how Miller fits with the Capitals without creating another hole in their roster.
        •Hope Smoke: Nick Kypreos: ”I think Cam Ward needs a change of scenery”
        •Craig Custance of ESPN: Panthers GM Dale Tallon has no desire to trade Tim Thomas at the deadline unless Thomas approaches him.

        “No,” he said during a Monday afternoon phone conversation. “No. But if he came to me and wanted to move, that’s a different story. I have no intention of moving him.”

        Thomas on the situation.

        “I’ve done some thinking, but I’m going to keep it to myself until I talk to the team,” Thomas said when I asked him how he’ll approach the trade deadline.

        •Rich Chere of the Star-Ledger: Devils Martin Brodeur on if he’d be surprised if the Devils ask him to waive his no-trade clause.

        “No, not at all,” Brodeur told The Star-Ledger on Tuesday. “It’s within the team’s rights to try and make themselves better. The fact is, I have the luxury to decide what I want to do. I hope if he (Lamoriello) is able to help the team, he’ll ask, regardless of what it is. It’s definitely something that is possible.”

        He wouldn’t be insulted, and it might give him an opportunity to play more.

        “I don’t know how I’d feel. I don’t know where I’m at with that,” Brodeur said with honesty. “I don’t know what I’d think if it were to happen. I definitely would like to play more, so if there is a chance somewhere…

        “But I’m not looking for that. I want to make sure this team gets on a playoff run. We’ll see what happens, but stranger things have happened.”

    • Nice thinking, Backchecking. I could see that as a real possibility (though I believe that, ultimately, the Devils hold onto Brodeur).

      But an experienced playoff goalie that will hold the fort until Harding (hopefully) returns next year, that is exactly what the Wild need. I could see them making a move for Tim Thomas for the same reasons.

      • The Parise ….Brodeur connection is very tight!

        • Meh, I hear he’s tight with Vanek, he’s tight with Marty. He could have earned similar money and stayed in NJ or gone to where one of his other buddies were. I’m not buying that they are that tight.

  4. NYR shouldn’t trade either player this season, but for Cally to be apparently seeking such a contract is just ridiculous. He is not better than Backes and Brown. Rangers would make better use of that contract one a #1 center.

    • You need to trade this season as they’re UFA’s at the end of it. I’d pay for Girardi, he’s a warrior and a great shut down defenceman with plenty left in the tank. Callahan on the other hand would get a good return at the deadline, say another forward at say Kreiders level and a 1st, it depends how desperate another team is to get someone like Callahan. I’m sorry but Callahan is looking like Chris Drury 2.0, he’s 28 and suffers from so many injuries, sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s retired before a 6 year deal would be over and given his production (it’s ok but on course for roughly 40 points this season) that isn’t worth $6m a year. If he’ll sign a 3 year deal then yea, maybe, but I can’t see that so why not trade him for a good young player or two who will help this team in a year or two’s time plus a high end pick, that’s got to be worth more in the long run than keeping someone who, given the way he plays will soon be in to his declining years.

      • WOW!!!!

        I thought most Leaf fans were hard on their Captain in Phaneuf …but you Rangers fans are roasting Callahan ….injuries or not …hes a perennial 20 plus goal getter and adds so much more to the game with his smart play of the puck and leadership skills, easy to coach and would give his life for his team …..would love to have a player like this on my team !

        • If a lot of Ranger fans are here telling you that Callahan isn’t a 6 million per year guy, Do you think that your opinion of him maybe a little bit off? A perennial 40-50 point guy that plays big, and pays big with injuries is not a guy you lock up for 7 years at 6 per. @ 6 million he looks like a superstar next to Clarkson & Horton….but that doesn’t make it a good deal. I think you are over valuing the C on his jersey and aren’t paying attention to his numbers. That C could easily go to Girardi, McDonagh, or even Nash. But his numbers could be replaced by a lot cheaper of a player. Again, I think I speak for most Ranger fans when I say I’d like him to stay, but not being handcuffed to him for 7 years @6 million.

          • OH MY GOD!!!

            Are you serious !

          • Backchecking,
            Again you pretty much have EVERY Ranger fan here disagreeing with your evaluation. It is time to consider that maybe Ranger fans have a better idea of his worth than you have. Callahan stands at 238th in scoring today. That basically equates to 100+ players not on their teams top 6 are putting up better numbers…. There are plenty of options out there if they can’t come to an agreement with Callahan. It won’t be gloom and doom as you make it out to be.

          • Agree 100% Callahan is not worth that type of money. Most players in the league are way overpaid for what they do.

            So how far will NYR go? I have read that the Rangers might go full rebuild….blow it up as it is and Start over.

            I don’t know about that, but if Callahan is traded, and possibly Girardi too…does the team consider trading Hank and rebuilding on the fly?

            They could drop Richards…no penalty.
            If they traded Callahan, Giradi and Lundqvist…they would be stacked with prospects and talent.;

            If the Oilers could pry away Lundqvist…..the return would be huge. One of the big three, Yak, 1′sts and a prospect..I have seen Callahan offers by fans for a player, pick, prospect.

            They could have a total different powerhouse set for years. Talbot has played very well for the NYR this year. Is he ready for full time?

            I don’t expect Lundqvist be traded. I expect the NYR will sign Giradi, but the other side of the coin looks brighter to me.

          • Actually, Callahan is being paid what he’s worth right now based on his performance. He is injury prone and teams need their captain on the ice, not in the press box. I know some team will overpay him, it seems to be the way things work in the NHL. We the Wild are WAY overpaying our captain, 7.2M for avaeraging 50 PPY. Martin St. Louis averages around 80-90 PPY and makes 5.25M? Oh well, after hearing Vanek saying that he is going to get all the money he can on his next deal, because you cant play the game forever. IMO.

  5. I think that the smartest think the leafs could do is the following when Dave Bolland comes back:
    1. Move Kulemin or Raymond
    2. Move Kadri to the wing position on the 3rd line & play him with Peter Holland
    This would let them keep 2 quality young center’s & it would solve the issue of what to do with the depth at center. This also protects them in case a center gets injured.
    The line up would look like
    vanRiemsdyk Bozak Kessel
    Lupul Bolland Clarkson
    Raymond/ Kulemin Holland Kadri
    Ashton McClement Orr

    • really like idea of moving kadri to wing, however dont trade kulimen or raymond because you wont get much for them and would rather one of them for depth if someone gets injured. If you really wanna shake things up trade Lupul for a need. Solid shut down dman or even gd prospects. i think kadri or raymond would look good on that second line in place of Lupul. Lets not forget Bolland might not be 100 percent this year so him being on second line might be a sretch

      • I don’t know about that! Lines should look like this…

        JVR-Bozak-Kessel
        Lupul-Kadri-Kuli
        Raymond-Bolland-Clarkson
        Bodie-McClem-T.Smith
        extra FWD=McLaren/Orr

        Holland and Ashton to the Marlies who cares about Orr….recall Holland when we trade Raymond or Kuli(hopefully not). Spot start McLaren when we need a fighter.

        Definitely need to move Franson ASAP!!!! If we can get Komarov back then add Raymond to the ASAP list or package them together w/ a pick or prospect for a stay at home DEF to replace Franson so Gunner can play on the 3rd pairing where he absolutely belongs!

        Gleason-Phaneuf
        Gardiner- ???(Defensive DEF like Kulikov/Girardi)
        Gunner-Reilly
        extra DEF= Ranger/Fraser

        That’s a pretty damn solid lineup IMO if they are healthy for a playoff run!
        Wishful thinking but they would match up very nicely with MOST eastern playoff contenders.
        G

  6. Callahan might not be worth 6 mill a year but I’m sure he will get it, whether from the Rangers or someone else. As for the debate on whether someone who is considering a goalie upgrade should go for Brodeur or Miller I’d say they’re crazy for not thinking Miller 1st. Of course, this depends on what each team is asking for to get these guys but Miller is having an amazing year for a terrible defense. On a team with even a decent defense he’d probably be 1st in save percentage and GAA this year, he’s been that good.

    As a Sabres fan I hope he gets a shot to win the cup with a good team. St Louis seems perfect fit, even with their situation being good now. Upgrade from very good goaltending to elite and try and win it all this year.

  7. Spector, if the Rangers can’t sign them both, and go as free agents in July, that means they lose two guys that could of netted them a lot for nothing. Are the Rangers really a contender this year? No. They could still deal either, or, and still get a return that still helps them make the playoffs

    • Really? Like what? Who replaces the leadership and experience of these two? Who replaces Callahan’s gritty two-way play? Who replaces Girardi, arguably their best defenseman?

  8. tyler ennis, brian flynn and 2014 2nd round pick to the rangers for ryan callahan and brian boyle

  9. It’s OVERATED LETANG!!

    GET IT RIGHT

    LET’S GO PEN’S!!!