NHL Trade and Free Agent Rumors – November 3, 2011.

The latest on the Flames, Oilers, Rangers and Avalanche.

SPORTSNET.CA: Mark Spector reports Calgary Flames GM Jay Feaster said in September he didn’t want to blow up his roster, but Spector suggests Feaster may face making significant changes to his roster if they continue to struggle against powerhouse teams like the Vancouver Canucks. He suggested Feaster, who appears to be trying to rebuild on the fly, could face two options,  moving some of their top names, like Jarome Iginla and Miikka Kiprusoff, for young players, prospects and draft picks, or attempt to rebuild via this summer’s UFA market.

CALGARY HERALD: Scott Cruickshank reports on the Flames rumored interest in Phoenix Coyotes holdout center Kyle Turris, noting the difficulty in determining what the cost should be for him, and the “scary notion” Turris could turn into another Matt Stajan.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Turris could be a gamble, but if the asking price isn’t too step, could be worthwhile if he blossoms into the first liner he was projected to become when he was selected third overall in the 2007 entry draft. I don’t think Feaster’s reached the point where he’s ready to conduct a massive overhaul, but if this team is floundering by the New Year, it could force him to commence the rebuild in earnest. Whether that means going the route of the Edmonton Oilers and Ottawa Senators (rebuild via the draft) or the Florida Panthers (dump lots of salary to free up space for this summer’s UFA market), or a combination of both, remains to be seen.

EDMONTON JOURNAL: David Staples reports on the Sam Gagner trade rumors, and believes there’s no need at this time for the Oilers to rush into making any moves, with Gagner or anyone else.

SPECTOR’S  NOTE: A conclusion I also reached – and which Staples duly noted – in my recent column for The Hockey News.

TSN’s Darren Dreger recently reported via Twitter the NY Rangers reported offer (one-year, one-way) to Anton Stralman remains on the table. Stralman is still in Sweden.

Will the Avalanche spend at the trade deadline?

DENVER POST: Adrian Dater recently responded to a reader’s question regarding the possibility of the Avalanche using their considerable cap space to bring in a rental player at the trade deadline, suggesting it was possible they could spend on the right rental player.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: What kind of rental player remains to be seen, for as Dater noted, it’s too early to look that far ahead and guess what the Avs might do.

17 Comments

  1. Turris has way more possible upside then Stajan ever had.

  2. Eddie, except for the part where he holds out as an RFA crying for a trade. Not a lot of upside to that.

    Anywho, Calgary’s top stars aren’t getting any younger, and I think if they can’t get into the playoffs this year, it’s rebuild time. Will have to see I suppose….

  3. Calgary is in a bad spot. Aging stars, zero prospects, overpaid non-contributors. Yikes.

  4. @NikK – I’ll add that they have 6 players with a NMC, and another 5 players with some form of NTC. Very bad spot indeed if those players don’t want to move.

  5. NikK, That seems like the same situation the Leafs had a few years back, didn’t work out too bad for them, then again, Feaster seems like he’s in over his head. He has no obvious direction, no intensity and it would seem, no hope. I truly feel for the Flames fans, they needed someone to go in guns blazing, the longer he delays the inevitable the longer the rebuild will take, no matter which avenue he chooses to go…

  6. Calgary is past due for significant changes!!!! Year after year pundits and fans and others have said we need a #1 center for Iginla and the flames will be awesome but i believe that there are few centers in the league that would make a huge difference too Iginla’s play. Iginla is a great player a future HOF’er but he is a Mike Gartner, Dany Heatly type player with better defensive end presence.
    Time to move Iginla for youth and picks. Kiprisof can also bring a pick and a prospect…..Spector is correct that a proper rebuild will consist of both draft picks and young FA’s.
    If Feaster moves Bourque for someone like Turris then he is moving in the right direction with an on the go rebuild….

  7. Juicebox
    The Coyotes have enough forwards on the left side, so it’s not a need and they would have to move one before trading for Bourque, so it seems unlikely from the Coyotes perspective. However, for a player like Iginla, they do have enough assets to offer if the Flames are willing to go to a full rebuild.

  8. I am not a flames fan. However I hate seeing a canadian franchise so screwed up. As I have said many times over the past couple of years the flames need a GM with fortitude to do things that need to be done. Sutter tried but he always seemed to get fleeced and Feester is a nervous wreck. Unless Feester can pull up his shorts they need a new GM. Flames fans are going to have to be patient for 3 or 4 years. They need to start over and for that to happen they must trade Iginla, Kiprusoff, Bouwmeester, Tanguay, and a few others to get top notch prospects and some 1st round draft picks. I dont understand what is so hard of a concept this is, the fans may be ticked off for a couple of years but the end product will make them cheer.

  9. I’d be cautious of rental players if i were the Av’s. Rental players are often overly expensive and don’t prove to be the difference makers they were expected to be when they were picked up. If you’re a team pushing fo the Cup it’s one thing but if you’re just pushing to make the playoffs that’s another.

    The Av’s are doing a nice job of rebuilding I’d hate to see them give up valuable pieces to their rebuild for a a slight advantage in just getting to the playoffs.

  10. Feaster built the Lighting to a Cup. He’s not in over his head. It takes a while to fix such a problem cap and roster situation like Sutter created.

  11. You cannot blame Feaster for the problems in Calgary right now. He’s been the GM for what, 6 months now? He inherited a ton of bad contracts and did a great job of unloading some of them and getting some cap room and younger players. Plus, ownership didn’t really show their faith in him by hanging that ‘interm’ tag on him for the better part of a year.
    The Flames organization is lucky to have Feaster. It’s not like there is a ton of Stanley Cup winning GMs out there beating the door down to be the GM of the Flames…

  12. The Flames should give Anton Babchuk a shot at a top line pairing. The guy gets third line pairing minutes, gets a plus score and 2 assists in four games playing at 11;30 a game. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

    And yeah, it’s not Feaster’s fault Sutter made such a brain dead trade for Phaneuf and Aulie. Stajan, Hagman, and White… two guys they’re now struggling to get rid of and a guy who gets shuffled around the league like a mercenary. That totally handcuffed their franchise. The Bouwmeester signing while having players like Regehr and Phaneuf was real stupid as well. Sutter was good when he wasn’t trying to throw money at his problems.

    The guys Burke has ripped off so far. Really. I wonder how GMs can be so stupid. Versteeg for a first rounder. Thank you. The only GM that knows how to deal with Burke seems to be Boston’s (Chiarelli)

  13. there is no point in trading Iggy/Kipper/Gino. You wont get anything back to help short term and you are taking to much of a gamble on long term. Everyone else move. NMC / NTC doesnt matter. Lose tonight to Detroit and have a meeting in the morning Feaster with every player and tell those particular players give me your lists. Trade them and even if you dont get fair value..which can be questionable still make the deal. Fire Sutter and bring in someone who is full of piss and vinegar to coach this team.

  14. The wheels fell off in calgary when sutter traded for oli jokinen and his 4.5 mil cap hit which left them without the cap space to sign 40 goal scorer Cammileri. Sutter should never have left the bench in cow town

  15. MJR I, I suppose you’re forgetting about the Kaberle deal… Sure, talk about the cup and all but we all know Kabs tried his best to stop the team from making it to the cup finals. Kaberle for Colborne, 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder. Not to mention, I wouldn’t call the Kessel deal a loss quite yet although we certainly gave up alot.

  16. Feaster will take a lot longer to fix the problems with the flames if he continues to give contracts similar to the ones that he says were handcuffing him, Glencross NTC, Tanguay NTC, Babchuck NTC! Why try so hard to keep a team that hasn’t made the playoffs in 2 years together? I can’t believe it’s not Sutter!

  17. We’re eleven games in and people start calling for a rebuild? After one bad loss to a division rival. Where’s the faith in an organizations move to hire a new manager and his tactics that are only just beginning to show flashes of what good, and even bad can come out of it? You don’t buy into a new regime then panic the moment something bad happens. Thus the Harvard graduate lawyer turned manager did not trade Iginla during the press conference on Tuesday. Prospects are not as lacking as believed, Paul Byron, T.J. Brodie, Jon Ortio, Ryan Howse, Max Reinhart. How about the twenty year old centre Roman Horak who may not stick with the club for the whole season, but that’s more than likely due to the return of blossoming centre Mikael Backlund. Perhaps if not for the injury he sustained in practice, The Flames could be 8-2-1 and this post irrelevant. No, despite the many accusers, critics, self proclaimed analysts, and even Pierre Macguire. The Flames will be a competitive team throughout the season and will return to the promised land once more.