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NEW YORK POST: The Devils may be operating under a “secret payroll limit”, to quiet concerns they’re operating under an unfair competitive advantage because of the financial assistance they’re currently receiving from the league. It’s also rumored the Devils might have interest in reacquiring Johnny Oduya if the Winnipeg Jets fall out of playoff contention by the trade deadline.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Regardless of any “secret payroll limit” (sounds like “double secret probation“), the Devils are reportedly on the verge of acquiring defenseman Marek Zidlicky from the Minnesota Wild.

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL: Examines the possibility the Rangers acquiring a notable scoring star like Rick Nash could have an adverse effect upon their successful team chemistry this season.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Unless the Rangers can add scoring depth without giving up too much in return (which isn’t likely to happen), the best move might be no move at all. As the old saying goes, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

NEWSOBSERVER.COM: Carolina Hurricanes winger Tuomo Ruutu is sidelined for up to three weeks with an upper body injury. GM Jim Rutherford claims it won’t have any impact upon his contract negotiations with Ruutu.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: It could, however, effectively take him off the trade market.

ESPN.COM: Boston Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli would like to make a trade but is leery of upsetting team chemistry.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Chiarelli did make a few notable moves around this time last season which bolstered his team’s chances of winning the Stanley Cup, but last fall he also resisted the temptation to shake things up when they got off to a horrible start in October. Ultimately, Chiarelli’s decisions will depend on how his club is performing, the status of Nathan Horton’s recovery from concussion, and what’s available on the open market. And no, they won’t be landing Rick Nash from Columbus.

STARTRIBUNE.COM: Pending UFA center Kyle Brodziak is trying not to be distracted  by his contract talks with the Minnesota Wild, but doesn’t like the uncertainty over his future.

TORONTO SUN: Joe Colborne doesn’t want to be Maple Leafs trade bait.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Leafs hope to land a first line scorer, Colborne could be part of the return.

DALLAS MORNING NEWS: Stars defenseman Nicklas Grossman, a free agent this summer, claims he’s not letting trade rumors affect his performance.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: That’s what they all say, but you know it has to be at the back of his mind.

TAMPA TRIBUNE’s Erik Erlendsson reports via Twitter the Tampa Bay Lightning won’t find goaltending and blueline help to get them into the playoffs this season. He claims they will be sellers at the deadline and will look to address those needs in the off-season.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Hat tip to GJ Berg for the link.

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37 Responses to NHL Trade Rumors – Wednesday, February 15, 2012.

  1. Bill Placzek says:

    Ruttuu injured?
    What a surprise?

    So those of you who have added them to their team as the one last best piece now see the real merch you are trading for!

  2. DS says:

    Rangers need to do similar to what Canes did adding Weight+Recchi in 2006. Add without subtracting

  3. Greg Schuler says:

    RE: Tampa – um, why will it be easier to find goaltending in the off-season? Tampa went right back to Roloson despite the distinct possibility of him falling off the cliff and only buttressed that possibility with Mathieu Garon, rather than explore available options such as Vokoun or Varlamov. The UFA goalie list is as bad and getting a goalie in trade means paying a similar price as was paid out for Varlamov, if there are any young goalies actually available. Unless Yzerman and Boucher think Tokarski is ready or Janus or they have a European goalie waiting in the wings they feel is ready, I think it will be difficult to upgrade the goaltending without sacrificing roster depth.

  4. Sheepdogged says:

    I’m having a hard time looking past the Wild getting Parise in a Zidlicky trade. Somebody put me in my place. Thanks.

  5. Kris says:

    This is shaping up to be one of those trade deadlines where “it appears” nobody is available – everyone will stand pat – and nothing will happen.
    We all know what that means – ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOSE.

    Nash to the Islanders for Nabokov, a first round pick and Kyle Okposo. Islanders have the space for his contract, “good” first round picks to trade, and top quality prospects…too many actually.

  6. DurtMCHurt says:

    I still think the Leafs have the best chance at getting Nash. He has a NMC and grew up in Toronto a Leaf fan. I’m sure it’ll happen unless Burke low balls. That being said, the Leafs have three high end offensive prospects, Kadri, Colborne and Frattin. I personally would rather keep Colborne out of the three.

  7. Dabroons says:

    Sheepdogged, those kinds of trades only happen in the minds of Leaf fans.

  8. Boltsnation says:

    NOBODY saw the Roloson trainwreck coming and and anyone who’s says otherwise is lying. Yes he is old, but nobody could have predicted that much of a drop off from last seasons playoff run. Garon was never supposed to be the starter, just a stop-gap backup.there are a couple of options in the off season. Ben Bishop is the best goalie not in the NHL and we could get him at the deadline, Harding is a long shot but with him being a UFA it is possible. Janus isn’t ready for the NHL, but if the Tic continues to show up in Norfolk then he could find himself in TBay. Riku Helenius is rocking the the finish league this season and is Ligthning property son he is also an option.

  9. Kris says:

    makes you wonder what it will take to pry Schneider and Raask loose from the Nucks, and Bruins.

  10. A. Donnybrook says:

    DurtMCHurt if Nash wanted to be a Leaf he could of been one if he chose not to resign in Columbus. I don’t think the Leafs need or want him, Carter on the other hand, maybe. Even with Carter’s defensive awareness as a forward which would help my hopes are for a #1 shutdown defender to help back there.

  11. SmielmaN says:

    Lol. Double secret probation. Funny clip. I forgot about that part. Haha.

  12. nikkro says:

    There was escalating talks of Ruutu staying a Hurricane as his name got more associated with the Rumour Mill, his injury obviously hurts his trade value significantly (especially if “fringe” teams were looking at him). I wouldn’t be surprised if he remained a Cane into next season…

  13. Boltsnation says:

    Riku Helenius has played 26 games in SM-liiga and has a 18-6 record with 6 shutouts. His GAA is 1.49 and his save % .939. He challenge for the number 1 spot in Tampa Bay next season.

  14. Murph says:

    @ A. Donnybrook ,

    Unfortunately Nash drank the koolaid that advertised ” we will build a world class team around you with imaginary money”.The Leafs ( or anyone else for that matter) never got to make a pitch for him.

  15. Diceman says:

    Even if Nash did want to play in Toronto that would not make them the front runner. It’s Howson who will pull off the deal, not Nash, even though he does need to improve. Toronto just doesn’t have the assets that other potentially interested teams have (Rangers, Kings, Flyers, among other most likely). Columbus does not want a bunch of picks and prospects. They want ready, good NHL players along with those picks and prospects. Maybe Lupul, Schenn, Kadri, 1st rounder as a start. I’m sure leafs fans think that’s absurd but that’s what it’s gonna take IMO. Howson would trade Nash but only if it was a substantial offer along those lines.

  16. DurtMCHurt says:

    Donnybrook, I heard he wanted to sign with the Leafs, but felt that if he left Columbus, the franchise would sink. His loyalty to the owner (I forget his name) and the franchise, was the deciding factor. All hearsay I guess, but I believe he’d love to play here.

  17. Richard Ilfeld says:

    Boltsnation has the plan – collect 4 or 5 youngsters and make it a competition, with Garon held over (he is under contract) as insurance/backup.mentor/stopgap.
    We’ll take a deep breath, and probably acccept another nonplayoff year if we come out with a #1, a #1A backup, and Marty/V4 still useful for a couple of years for a possible run.
    This is a team not hopelessly far away – last in goals against and top 7 in scoring certainly puts a focus on the problems.

  18. Greg Schuler says:

    First:

    “Nash to the Islanders for Nabokov, a first round pick and Kyle Okposo. Islanders have the space for his contract, “good” first round picks to trade, and top quality prospects…too many actually.”

    Um, Nash has a no-movement clause and I doubt very much he’d want to go from a rebuilding team with a bad front office to a rebuilding team with a good front office but terrible arena. Plus, Nabokov is himself a free agent and old, so he has little value to a rebuilding team, even if they flip him to a contender. Okposo and the first are a good start, but it’s an unlikely scenario.

    Second:
    “I still think the Leafs have the best chance at getting Nash. He has a NMC and grew up in Toronto a Leaf fan. I’m sure it’ll happen unless Burke low balls. That being said, the Leafs have three high end offensive prospects, Kadri, Colborne and Frattin. I personally would rather keep Colborne out of the three.”

    How often do boyhood allegiances actually matter in the professional world? Even then, the Leafs have to move cap money this year and next to accommodate Nash, plus offer pieces of value. While the three prospects have their pluses, they also have minuses and none has established themselves as an NHL player. I understand everyone over-values their prospects (and yes, I am withholding numerous snide comments about Leaf fans here) but Kadri and Frattin do what exactly for Columbus? Are they building blocks or complimentary pieces – because if you’re moving Rick Nash and getting complimentary pieces in return, why bother with the deal?

  19. Greg Schuler says:

    “NOBODY saw the Roloson trainwreck coming and and anyone who’s says otherwise is lying. Yes he is old, but nobody could have predicted that much of a drop off from last seasons playoff run. Garon was never supposed to be the starter, just a stop-gap backup.there are a couple of options in the off season. Ben Bishop is the best goalie not in the NHL and we could get him at the deadline, Harding is a long shot but with him being a UFA it is possible. Janus isn’t ready for the NHL, but if the Tic continues to show up in Norfolk then he could find himself in TBay. Riku Helenius is rocking the the finish league this season and is Ligthning property son he is also an option.”

    Nobody saw the possibility that a 40-year old plus goaltender could drop off the face of the earth? Really? I find that hard to believe. And I find it downright impossible that someone as smart as Yzerman would not have planned for it anyway; that is his job, by the way, and relying on Garon as the sole answer is irresponsible (and yes, you can say that about a lot of goaltending situations around the league).

    Ben Bishop can be acquired but it will cost assets, assets Yzerman has pledged to hoard (rightly) rather than spend. And if Tampa waits until the free agent period, they have to compete with other teams and offer him the market value of his potential and services – it’s not like he is an established NHL goalie. The Wild have little incentive to move a goalie, especially given the concerns around Backstrom.

    If it comes down to the youth on the farm or Europe, well, it’s a rocky road.

  20. DurtMCHurt says:

    Greg Shuler, I never said move all three for Nash. I meant to move one of our high end offensive prospects in a package including other players, I wouldn’t want to move Colborne.

  21. DurtMCHurt says:

    Diceman, “It’s Howson who will pull off the deal, not Nash” I don’t think you’re getting the fact Nash has a NMC. Howson can swing a deal with the Florida’s and Minnesota’s all he wants, Nash can veto the deal. He picks his destination, so who’s in the drivers seat?

  22. Murph says:

    @ Diceman,

    Playing along for fun, why do we have to always assume the Leafs could only pull of getting Nash by including Kessel or Lupul. Are they the only NHL ready players on the Leafs? No.

    What about Kulemin or McArthur, along with Schenn, Kadri , Holzer and a pick(s), or Kulemin and McArthur, Schenn, Kadri and picks?

    Thats NHL players, a prospect s) and a pick(s).And either one takes about 7 to 10 million off the cap.

    And Durt is right. Nash can refuse if the team Howson wants to trade to is not on his list. And we need to keep Colborne. It may take some time to develop, but when he does I believe he will be good.

  23. Boltsnation says:

    Looking at his stats from last year nobody would have seen a 1 goal per game increase. As far as Garon is concerned, he was signed to back up not starter. roloson’s health and stats dictated a decent year not a horror show. Both guys are nothing but stop gaps as Yzerman grooms our farm guys. When he took the job, he said it would take time. If anything last season hurt him more them helped.

  24. Bucsaw says:

    Toronto does not have the BIG name to trade, but they do have plenty of high potential of great 2nd and 3rd line players as well as D men, players with grit. Any GM will tell you that..We may not get Nash! Let’s just let the Irishmen work his magic. Hey Spec? Any rumours on Turco? What a fit for Hawks

  25. Old Soldier says:

    Looking at this from Columbus point of view, you have one chance to do this right and really make a difference in the teams future.

    So if I am Howson I want a young established Goalie (Schneider, Bernier, Halak, Lindbeck), a young offensive D-man with potential (Tanev/Sauve, Ellis, Voynov), a young forward with upside (Hodgson, Berglund, Colin Wilson, Clifford) and a first rounder.

    That would definitely limit the teams who Columbus would look at and Nash would agree to, St. Louis, Vancouver, LA and Nashville. I know fans out there are already dreaming of Nash on their team but lets be real, Toronto has absolutely nothing Columbus wants, which begins with an young established goalie, and if I am Columbus I am not looking at the Rangers if the big return is Dubinsky, and their big need is still a young goalie and d-man.

    If Columbus could make the deal with Vancouver for Schneider, Hodgson, Sauve and a first rounder, Howson is set. With Johanssen already up with the big team, that is two solid centers, a young quality goalie and prospects. Add to that the probably dynamic choice of Yakupov and Columbus might not be in that bad of shape next year. And if they can also move Carter for a couple pieces, they would be in a great position going forward.

  26. dave-b'sfan says:

    I think Boston has the cap space and players to make it work.
    Not sure I would want to do a deal and give up Rask or Hamilton.
    Would be interesting to see his list of teams though.
    Krejci,Rask,Kampfer and first rounder.
    Sounds good to me both ways.
    Rask is too good to be a backup any longer.

  27. Jeff Ostic says:

    The Leafs need a number one goalie. They also need two larger forwards that can score 20-25 goals and play in their top nine. A shut down defenceman and a number one centre are also required.

    Rick Nash fills only one of these five requirements.

    They have a long way to go as yet. If they could add one or two pieces now without giving up too much then they should move in that direction.

  28. Diceman says:

    @ Durt if you’re going to quote me use the whole quote, don’t taylor it to fit your argument. What I said was, “It’s Howson who will pull off the deal, not Nash, even though he does need to improve. ” And I meant approve not improve so my fault there……yes Nash would have to approve, but I think the point is that he wants to go to a playoff team at the very least. So yes, he has to approve, but Howson will not trade with Toronto just because Nash wants to go there, even if he does. Nash is in the drivers seat, I never said otherwise. I would think he’d be willing to go to more than just one team, especially when that team isn’t even a cup contender.

    @ Murph yes you are right Toronto has other NHL ready players. I just don’t see Howson interested in the lesser guys when there are plenty of teams who would offer real talent (Jack Johnson, JVR, Dubinsky, maybe Ryan Clowe). Those guys are speculation of course but I would think he’ll want a real difference maker, but of course it depends on the rest of the deal (prospects, picks, contract terms, etc.). You’re correct in what you said, but the specific player doesn’t matter that much (when speaking hypothetically i mean). What matters is that they don’t just want a bunch of prospects like almost every Leafs fan proposes.

    I read somewhere, and completely agree, if you think you’re getting Nash without changing the makeup of your active roster you are mistaken. Kind of a general rule of thumb.

  29. alforducks says:

    None of the out of the running teams seem to want to trade but instead are signing their players.
    If one of the out of it or close to out of it ( Edmonton, Columbus, Anaheim, NYI, Carolina, Montreal etc) decided to break ranks and be the King maker, they could get very rich, very fast in prospects and picks.

  30. motocitysmitty says:

    why is it the Leaf fans talk hockey on here and some of these people only can spit on these ideas ie Dabroons. Just talk hockey here disagree if you want but potshots from the sideline are gutless. I keep hearing Leaf fans over value there assets. Kadri went 7th Colbourne around 17th. Both have played well when up are great in the AHL. You would be crazy to talk about a deal for Nash without mentioning them. You add Schenn and a pick you are in the neighbourhood.

  31. SHARKATTACK says:

    The Sharks will land Nash!!

    TRADE: Alex Stalock – Justin Bruan – M. Havalat – 1st Round Pick

    GET: Rick Nash – 4th Round Pick

    WORLD CHAMPION SHARKS HAS A NICE (RING) TO IT !!!!!

  32. Innovator says:

    Tampa could easily pick up Harding in the offseason. Harding will be looking for no less than a starters role and Tampa can scoop him up because of that. There are only a couple other teams that need starting goaltending and Tampa is in one of the better positions for that. They just need to improve their D also this offseason. Yzerman should sell some assets at the deadline and build for next year.

    Nash to Toronto is possible but I could also see Toronto not being on his list. It has long been stated that he’d rather not go to a hockey crazed area and kind of go under the radar on another team, so he could stay out west. Outside shot is nashville looking to make a run, and they will likely be losing one of suter or weber in the off season so they have a shot at fitting that salary in. But I think if Nash is dealt at the deadline it is to LA. I also would not rule out Florida sneaking in there as they have a few interesting pieces they could work with, just not sure if it’d be enough for the jackets to bite on.

    Boston will add a vet type player again this year who is gonna work hard for that last shot at the cup.

  33. DurtMCHurt says:

    Innovator, if Nash wanted to fly under the radar, or stay out of a hockey hotbed, I heard Columbus is a great city ;) seriously though, out of all the teams mentioned as rumoured destinations, all of them are hockey hot spots. I don’t see how it’s “long been stated” that he doesn’t want to go where hockey matters most.

  34. DurtMCHurt says:

    smitty thank you. I think people who aren’t Leaf fans, get annoyed and salty with the massive amounts of Leaf talk. I can see there frustration, but to outright call all of our players garbage, and our prospects terrible is just plane ignorant.

  35. LeafsNationUS says:

    I’m too lazy to scroll up and see who wrote it, but I find the idea of Nash to Nashville interesting. Lindback, Wilson or Geoffrion, Ellis, maybe a conditional first or second rounder. It would blow their salary out of whack, but maybe they mover Suter or Weber in the offseason to make up the difference? But if they did that I guess they would regret not holding onto Ellis…decisions, decisions…

  36. moester says:

    gees guys, Columbus will haave the # 1 pick this year who is a russian and awesome! They can get 1 or 2 first rounders (2012, 2013) a roster player and prospect for Nash. Tom C, Kumelin, Mac, Gunner, kadri, maybe even Schenn r all expendible. 2 firsts, a prospect and roster player is fair trade. Nash hasn’t been that superstar who deserves to make the money he’s making. He has had very good linemates before and present…..really, what’s the big deal???
    I wouldn’t want carter either! how long has he been in CB? It’s probably true that he is a cancer in the dressing room!

  37. GKNYR says:

    Nash is most likely on the move, with a 85% chance. All though he has a lot of loyality to his organization, he’s aboard on a fast sinking ship. With his NMC, he is without a doubt in the driver seat, with a lot of turns to maneuver. A lot of teams are in the playoff hunt along with teams that are trying to go deep on the road to the cup. The Leafs are a big potential player in this deal. Besides the fact that he grew up loving the Leafs… The team has a lot of talent upfront and in the back; but will have to let go of one of their top players to acquire Nash. For the Jackets, a bunch of young talent for their top foward does sound like a sweet deal… But do they really want a group of talented prospects to build around a team with no definite 30+ goal scorer? Maybe they trade Connolly, perahps Grabovski and also MacArthur are in the category of being dealt away for the 25avg+ goal scorer- Rick Nash; along with some young guys and draft considerations. Toronto has solid players upfront that are putting up decent numbers this year so I doubt they will trade for Nash who is on route to have 30+ goals this season, despite only netting 18 thus far. The Leafs need a solid goaltender with a veteran presence in net. Input, Nabokov who is amongst top of the league in save percentage and also a 62 goals against. The Isles strongly need a veteran offensive player to help out Tavares and gang. Leafs have a lot of potential players they can deal for Nabokov that the Islanders would love to have. Can Montoya take the reins and be the front runner in the goalie surge on the island? Probably not. With allowing 46 goals in just 20 games going 6-5-5. With that said, the Islanders are not going to get rid of Nabokov neither to the Leafs nor the Bluejackets.
    The Rangers are leading the eastern conference with a 9 point lead and playing exceptional hockey. These past years to this date they are up& down in the standings battling for the 8th& final spot in the east. When they do make the playoffs, they barely get past the first round so they will be looking to make a move to solidify that they are a force to be reckon with. With the chemistry of the Broadway Blue shirts right now, its sad to think that they will try to make a move for Nash. Don’t get me wrong, he would make a great addition to the blue shirts who would most likely give up Dubinsky , Woltski and a talented prospect to clear up some cap space to acquire Nash. With the great play as of late will the Rangers pursue in this big time trade adding to they’re big named forwards? With the trade deadline nearing this is going to be a bidding war for the star studded right winger. Can’t wait to see what happens! Love reading all of you guys predictions. Tell me what you think!

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