Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup – February 5, 2012.

The latest from the Ottawa Sun, Boston Globe,  TSN and CBC.

OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports sources say “at least four teams” -  the Rangers, Sharks, Bruins and Red Wings -  have expressed interest in Oilers winger Ryan Smyth…”Confirm or deny”: the Blue Jackets may be ready to deal captain Rick Nash. The Rangers and Kings are interested, but Nash’s $7.8 million per season contract to 2018 could mean he gets moved in the off-season, not the trade deadline. Their first priority is to move Jeff Carter. The Maple Leafs are interested…The Wild would like to add a top end defenseman, and could move either Niklas Backstrom or Josh Harding to make it happen, though they might have to wait until the off-season…The Canucks would like to add toughness for the playoffs…Islanders GM Garth Snow is fielding calls for Evgeni Nabokov, P.A Parenteau and Frans Nielsen. The Isles have held contract talks with Parenteau and Nielsen, and could keep the former and shop the latter…The Avs could move T.J. Galiardi…The Red Wings would like to add depth at forward and sources say GM Ken Holland has held talks with the Oilers over Ales Hemsky…Several teams, including the Sharks, Bruins, Rangers and Red Wings, could have interest in Anaheim Ducks winger Teemu Selanne if he agrees to be dealt…”The talk is the Leafs are willing to offer up either C Joe Colborne or C Nazem Kadri to the Hurricanes for C Tuomu Ruutu.” The Sharks are also believed  to have interest in Ruutu.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Seems the same four teams have interest in Smyth and Selanne. It’s up to them if they want to be traded…Confirm or deny the Blue Jackets could shop Rick Nash? I’ll take “deny” for $1000.00, Alex…Seems to me the Wild’s real need is for more scoring forwards, not defensemen…Snow is believed considering the retention of Nabokov for the rest of the season. Don’t be surprised if the Isles re-sign both Parenteau and Nielsen. They’ve done well in recent years retaining key players…Holland is also believed to have concerns over Hemsky’s injury history and declining production…If the Leafs are to move one of those young centers, I believe it should be Kadri, not Colborne. Leafs fans could forgive moving the former, not the latter, for what could be a “playoff rental” in Ruutu.

BOSTON GLOBE: Kevin Paul Dupont reports the Bruins still have vacancies to fill, specifically those left by Mark Recchi (retired), Michael Ryder and Tomas Kaberle (free agency). He suggested as possible targets Phoenix’s Ray Whitney, Columbus’ Vinny Prospal, Carolina’s Tuomo Ruutu, Buffalo’s Drew Stafford, Montreal’s Hal Gill, Carolina’s Jaroslav Spacek, Islanders Steve Staios or Milan Jurcina…He speculates possible power forward targets for the Maple Leafs could be Anaheim’s Bobby Ryan or Corey Perry…Dupont doesn’t buy the theory the Sabres might move Ryan Miller at the trade deadline…Some club might make a pitch for disappointing LA Kings winger Dustin Penner…

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Coyotes won’t move Whitney if they’re still in the playoff chase…The Ducks aren’t moving Ryan or Perry, especially the latter…I concur about Miller, I also don’t believe they’ll shop him…If a team does make a pitch for Penner, it’ll be considerably less than what the Kings gave up to land him.

TSN: Darren Dreger recently suggested the trade status of Oilers center Sam Gagner remains uncertain but the club is still expected to move Ales Hemsky…The LA Kings are seeking a top-six forward and have interest in Hemsky, as well as Maple Leafs forward Nikolai Kulemin and Clarke MacArthur, though no deal appears imminent with the Leafs…Dreger noted rumors linking the Calgary Flames with Jeff Carter, but Keith Jones suggested Buffalo’s Derek Roy might be a better fit…

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Gagner’s not going anywhere…Leafs fans probably wouldn’t be sad to see Kulemin or MacArthur moved, but I don’t think either guy would suitably address the Kings needs…I agree with Jones that Roy might be a better fit for the Flames, at least from a contract standpoint. The Flames already have a lot of money tied up in a handful of players.

CBC.CA: Eric Francis suggested the Edmonton Oilers might be willing to move Sam Gagner if they could get a top-four defenseman in return, but the problem is there aren’t many teams willing to give up that return for Gagner, despite his recent offensive heroics. Glenn Healy meanwhile dismissed the idea the Oilers would move Gagner, and feels there’s no room for Ales Hemsky…Francis also noted Carter’s agent said his client no longer has a “no-trade” clause, as it didn’t follow Carter to Columbus. Healy suggested Carter’s salary is as good as a “no-trade” contract, while Elliotte Friedman suggested Carter’s poor attitude could also affect his trade value…Healy believes if Ryan Suter wants to stay with the Predators, he’ll have to trust management. He also believes it could cost the Maple Leafs $5 million per season to re-sign Mikhail Grabovski…The Hurricanes could consider re-signing Tuomo Ruutu if they don’t find a suitable trade offer.

32 Comments

  1. get komisarek to waive his ntc and dump the contract. pick up kaberle or gill for the playoffs. komisarek has no speed and no hands, just size. kaberle would be a shocker back on the leafs, gill not so much. i dont see them getting anything larger then a couple of checking line centers. why mess with a good thing with the top 2 lines? have your bottom 2 be the ones to punish boston or the rangers and bring at least 9 defence for the playoffs

  2. Ryan, our obviously a Habs fan, as no leaf fan would want anything to do with kabrele again, as shown in his production since leaving the team last season, as well as his current contract. I don’t see Burke wanting to add gill either who is slower the komisarek. I would think a team looking to make the playoffs would want to keep komisarek as he would be a perfect playoff defensemen, minus his contract of course but what can you do about that. As for the trades leafs will make, I have no idea anymore, there doesn’t seem to be any top players available that make sense and anything else, like the ruttu trade just seems like a step backwards.

  3. Well said Jrd18. I like the current roster right now. If they get in, anything can happen. They are pretty stocked with kids in the minors, both skaters and targets. Gaurenteed, Burke won’t gamble after all the work he has done over the last 4 years……

  4. As a Leaf fan I would be crushed to see Kulemin leave. With his off year in point production Kulemin who is a RFA won’t have much leverage for a raise on his 2.35 million from this year. Despite his off year with points he is a big reason Grabovski is as good as he is and is a great two way player who plays hard every game. If the Leafs can sign Kulemin to a similar cap hit I would be highly disappointed if they decide to trade him instead. I’d also be nervous about giving Grabovski a big contract without his wingman for the past few years. As much as I like Kulemin I don’t believe he will get enough in return for what he means to the team.

  5. LOL “Kevin Paul Dupont reports the Bruins still have vacancies to fill, specifically those left by ….Tomas Kaberle (free agency).” LOL kaberle was a no show for boston, an empty sweater. If they are REALLY looking to fill that hole, Montreal would be more than happy to fill it for you with, say, Tomas Kaberle! LOL … Works for me…..

  6. Sorry Ryan, but there is no way the leafs bring back Kaberle. They have Liles, Gardiner and Franson which are more or less offensive defensemen. Kaberle isn’t even shooting 2%. I would also take Komisarek over Gill. Gill is older and slower isn’t as physical and is playing much worse than Komisarek.
    Sorry, but who cares or gives much stock into what Glenn Healy says. And I’m being kind.
    I agree that Kadri should be the one to go if their is a choice between him and Colborne. I do like Kadri but it seems he can’t catch a break with Wilson and may get a better break with Carolina. Seems that ex-leafs do well there(except Kaberle). Colborne could turn out to be a decent centreman. I still think the hurricanes will re-sign Ruutu.
    I always figured Gagner was going to be a pretty decent hockey player and he may yet become a real good asset. However, he doesn’t seem to be in the oilers long term plans. The oilers are overflowing with young forwards that they are keen on and want to get them into the lineup on a fulltime basis. Other than the last two games Gagner has been on a steady slide downwards. His performance may have made GM’s take a little bit more notice but I don’t think his stock has risen all that much. He may be harder to move in fact because the oilers will put more value on him now.
    Carters bad attitude will probably change the moment he gets traded away from Columbus. If I were a GM I’d be a little leery though about a guy who sulks in such a manner. Maybe thats one of the reasons Holmgren traded him in the first place.
    Why do people suggest Kulemin should be dealt. Sure he is having an off offensive year but he contributes in many more ways. He should be given one more year to prove this was just an off year. Not everyone on your team is going to score 30 goals every year.
    What kind of pitch will be made for Penner? Maybe a knuckleball. Maybe a screwball. Whatever the case I wouldn’t expect much in return for a guy who has lost his game. He is a waste of a roster spot and should be sent to the minors so his cap space could be used to bring in somebody worthwhile.
    I wish rumours about Perry and Getzlaf would just go away. As much as I would like to see them on the leafs it isn’t going to happen, at least this year.

  7. The Leafs CAN NOT trade Kulimen. I know he is having an off year production wise but he is the straw that stirs the drink on that second line. He is the Leafs best two way forwad and he creates lots of space for Grabbo and Mac.

  8. Yah
    Don’t trade kulemin, and try to get him signed to a contract similar to macarthurs( around 3 mill for 3 years)
    Then we can evaluate signing grabo to a 4 year 4.5 ish type of contract.
    Only big trade I see Burke pulling now is for parise.
    The leafs seem to be gelling at the perfect time, heading down the stretch.

  9. was at the Leafs Sens game last night , I know it was only 1 game but the Leafs looked solid top to bottom. Although I don’t think Bozak is a true #1 center he played a helluva game. It will also be important for Armstrong to stay healthy , he brings lots of spunk on the 3rd or 4th line.
    There is alot of salary on the third line though ( Connolly 4.75 and Lombardi 3.5 ) not sure that can be addressed until the off season.
    Jake Gardiner has a really sound all around game , Burke knew what he was doing when he was added to the Lupul / Beauchemin deal.

  10. Lyle,if you think leafs fans will be happy to see either khulemin,or mcarther go,you dont know much about leaf fans,yes khulemin has had an off year but we’ve seen his potential and have faith he;ll get back there,mac has been a great pick up and he’s a keeper,neither player will be given away for a prospect,we;d hate to see either player go,but if it brings back a number one center,almost anyone is available,if given the choice we’d rather keep khulemin

  11. Why do MSM and fans think Kadri is someone Burke is willing to part with. I don’t think Burke will part with his first pick as a GM of the Leafs especially when Burke is making Kadri take his time with development much in the same manner Burke has done with his big ticket players in the past. I guess the Sun papers are just one step up from HB and since they are a “legit” paper thus blinding fans with really dumb and unfounded crap.

  12. If Burke traded Kadri or Colborne for Ruutu, I would personally head down to the ACC and drop a duece on his desk. Komi can’t be traded, but if Burke has plans to reup Grabovski (highly recommended) he should look at moving Lombardi for a draft pick.
    Roy to Calgary makes a lot of sense.

  13. OK, the Leafs have everybody healthy, the goaltending looks much more stable, they haven’t given up a power-play goal in 2012, must be time for a trade. Come on, man!
    Let’s see what this team can do – it’s not a bad group and they are slowly learning how to close out games. The organization has a deeper talent level than any Leaf team in recent memory. If moves need to be made, make them in June.

  14. kadri > ruutu in one year

  15. Kaberle, Kulemin, Lombardi. or Gill etc etc etc weren’t mentioned in any of the articles…Toronto was mentioned lightly in a couple of articles…..yet here are a bunch of Leaf fans jacking the entire site….again. Is there NOT somewhere else you can all go? I mean, as you can see, nobody wanats to post anything to discuss, cause it won’t be discussed because everybody has their blue sunglasses on. This is a trade rumor site. Not a maple Leaf trade homer site. Mix it up fellas, unlikle a lot of people, I read all the comments and I just don’t have the energy on a Sunday to read all this maple leaf speculation and bullshit. BORRRRRRRING!!!!!!!!

  16. The Leafs would be absolutely insane to give up either Kadri or Colborne for a rental like Ruutu. Ruutu isn’t even that good of a player, he is a fringe 2nd/3rd liner. He isn’t an improvement over anybody in the Leafs top 6.

  17. I would agree with Durt- As a Flames fan, I would rather see Roy to Calgary vs Carter. Although Carter’s cap hit is decent, it is way too long. And hearing the guy has some attitude problems doesn’t help matters. I like Carter’s size over Roy’s, however, Carter is a shooter like Iggy and I think it would resemble something like when Ollie first got traded to Calgary and they tried the two together- it wasn’t a good fit. Roy is a gifted and natural passer and I believe he would be a better fit with Iggy.

  18. Carter will excel, IMO, wherever he ends up. The thing is, what’s his value at? He’s worth a roster 2nd-3rd liner, quality prospect, and 2nd rounder. But if the BJ’s get that then they gamble and lost HUGE on the trade for him. Might trump the Kessel trade as the worst of the last 10 years when they trade him away. If he gets a top 10 pick for him plus roster player and prospect then they still lose but not that huge. The kid didn’t want to leave Philly, just had injury issues. The team signed him for a career contract and then ship him out to a place where hockey isn’t as big. Of course there’s a let down. I know hes a professional and everything but he’s also young and thought he had his life set up for atleast 5 years. Then it gets turned upside down and obviously the BJ’s don’t have great hockey personnel managing the team. It must be frustrating. If he stays into next year he will bounce back. He’s too good.

  19. Cowtown, ya Carter would be a bit of a PR disaster there. Although (as Lyle mentioned) Carter didn’t carry over his NTC, I think Flames fans are looking forward to more financial flexibility down the road. And as you mentioned, his shoot first mentality might not be an ideal match for Iggy and Cammy. Roy lacks size, but Iginla and Cammy are pretty gritty players, I can see Roy flourishing there.

  20. Carter to calgary doesnt seem lika bad plan. Their core guys are getting up there and Carter has plenty of high end years left. The one thing about Carter and his career length contract, he’ll either be a sweet deal or a nightmare

  21. Farley, just sit back and enjoy the entertainment. The longer these threads grow the more unrealistic the trade suggestions get! LOL
    There is something I’m genuinely curious about that I would like to pose as a question to our Leaf fan’s/posters: if Nazeem Khadri is such a bonafide prospect, as so many of you keep re-stating over and over, then why is it that he’s also seemingly the first name you throw out as a return for whatever star player that’s going to Toronto in return?

  22. @Durt: I wonder if Carter could mesh with Alex Tanguay who is more of a playmaker than a shooter. Either Cammalleri or Iggy could play the right side. And Tanguay is under contract until 2016, I think.

  23. @Ranzier: Leaf fans are willing to part with Kadri because they are too impatient to wait for him to develop (or bust) and want to see the Leafs win now. It’s not hard to see where they’re coming from; Toronto hasn’t had much success in recent years and it’s gotten stale amongst the Leafs faithful.

  24. Ryan give me some of what your smokin. You think the Leafs should bring back Gill or Kaberle. Why not bring back Aki Berg while we’re at it. I wouldn’t give up Kadri or Colbourne for Ruutu. Maybe Blacker . Leafs have the most depth I have ever seen why mess with it. First time a Leaf fan is not screaming for a trade mark this down

  25. I think the only way Burke pulls off any deal is if a bonafide star is the return. In which case, I think any player/pick/prospect is fair game as far as our bait. We just need to get to a seed that doesn’t draw the bruins or rangers in first round, that way we can at least have a decent shot at round 2. It’ll never happen, but Getzlaf would be amazing here, but almost anywhere I guess lol. Schenn,MacArthur,Colborne, and 2012 first rounder? Probly wouldn’t do it, just a gauge.

  26. can someone tell me how you trade for a player with 10yrs left on a contract all the jeff carter talk i think is comming from his own team. there is not a gm in the league that will make a dead line deal for him and be on the hook for the carter contract. i dont think any of the top teams will make any major deals. they are all looking for help but none will want to upset the balance of there teams with a big deal. they all will add a player or 2 for depth. ryan smith and teemu selanne would both be a perfet fit for the ny rangers and the cost of the deal would be players from hartford and a draft choice for each

  27. Ruutu makes any playoff team better and is easily resignable so Carolina should ask for a big return.

    LA has shown they are willing to gamble on bad contracts to chase wins and the Stanley cup. If Columbus really wants to move him I don’t see how they could turn down a deal like Bernier and Martinez from LA. Both players are surplus to LA and getting Carter gives them a legit goal scorer who can easily shift to a wing.

    To offset Carter’s contract LA could just dump Penner off on one of the top teams in the west looking for some grit for basically nothing. It mught just be me but I could see Penner thriving on the Red Wings or Blackhawks (and they have plenty of cap space).

  28. Ok, All this talk about Roy being a better fit in Calgary may be true, but who goes back the other way? Considering they need a goal scoring centre who is big and can play with some speed. Darcy is not trading guys for picks, thats not going to work for him either.
    I look at the line up and don’t see much worth trading for in Calgary. At least, nothing that fits in “Hockey Heaven”

  29. I don’t know… a couple years from now 5.3 might not seem so bad for Carter when guys like Perry and Getzlaf will be signing 7-8 million dollar deals… Agree with the man OSS… Buffalo will want something back while CBJ will take picks and prospects… Carter deal seems more likely… but as a Flames fan both are upgrages

  30. As long as the Islanders remain in the playoff chase, no one is getting dealt.

  31. Kaberle is basically untradeable.
    Who in their right mind would trade for that contract.
    Oh wait Montreal did right?

  32. @ Durt- very much agreed. The Flames (Feaster) IMO are looking for more financial freedom and to get out of the handcuffs that Darryl put us in. One thing scares me about next year- the Flames will have roughly (last time I checked) a little over 20 mill in cap space to spend next year, barring any re-signings etc, so I am a little weary about Feaster making any long term commitments to any contracts structured like Carter’s. And going on how Feaster feels about NTC’s and NMC’s, I think he may be weary too. I think Roy right now is THE best fit and according to some Buffalo fans on here, would be happy to be rid of him for cheap- I was hoping for this at the beginning of the season and I think a really good talent could be had for cheaper than usual. Roy was considered “un-moveable” at this seasons beginning and due to the Sabres not having the season they anticipated and Roy not exactly having his point per game pace, I think it’s a no brainer if Feaster can get him without mortgaging and future “big time” prospects or picks.

    @ logiclee- the Flames “core” isn’t as as old as you think- besides Iggy turning 34 and Ollie being 33, Tanguay being 32, Cammy being 29- and many younger than them on the top 9 fowards position and J-Bo being 28- I fail to see how our “core” is getting up there in years. Iggy is in great shape and easily has 5 plus years left in him at a good level, Ollie has changed his game and just added a few years to his career too- etc etc- these guys IMO are in their prime and The Flames are anything but over-aged at this point in time as the average age of the team is 28.4- to me, thats all good and very prime with a good mix of experience and newcomers.

    @ crazycanuck- Of course Tanguay would be a good fit with Carter- it’s a no brainer and a natural fit- a passer and a shooter- but may not be a good fit for Iggy who needs a passing centerman, not a shooting one.

    @ smielmaN- I think you have Carter over-rated in regards to what he can fetch in return. If he had a 5 year or less in contract, then yes- but the 10 year thing is a HUGE down fall and a major risk- see: DiPietro. Now, you are asking a team taking him on to make a major financial risk and commitment that can indeed turn into a nightmare- is it worth the risk if you are the GM ? especially one trying to make a name for yourself ? If Carter’s contract was 5 years or less, he would of been gone yesterday and it would be doubtful Columbus would even move him- he would be too valuable for the money (cap hit).