Sunday NHL Rumor Roundup – January 5, 2014

The latest on Dan Girardi, Ryan Miller, Curtis Glencross, Paul Stastny, Ryan O’Reilly, Sam Gagner, Matt Moulson and more.

OTTAWA SUN: Bruce Garrioch reports the NHL’s Olympic roster freeze period (February 7-23) could result in an increase in trade activity much sooner than usual. The annual trade deadline is March 5…The Bruins intend to look to within their organization to replace injured defenseman Dennis Seidenberg, but if that fails to work could test the trade market. Rangers defenseman Dan Girardi could be a target, as Garrioch claims he’s been shopped owing to management’s concern over re-signing him…Sabres goalie Ryan Miller might not be traded after all. The new Sabres GM could try to re-sign him, plus their asking price (three prospects and a first round pick) is too high…The Canadiens may have looked at Flames winger Curtis Glencross, leading Garrioch to wonder if the Flames try to convince him to accept a deal. The Habs are also believed trying to move Daniel Briere…The Phoenix Coyotes could be interested in Sabres’ winger Matt Moulson…The Hurricanes might not be done dealing. Garrioch cites a couple of sources claiming GM Jim Rutherford is willing to trade anyone except Eric and Jordan Staal, but he doubts they’ll move winger Jeff Skinner. Forwards Jiri Tlusty, Tuomo Ruutu and defenseman Ron Hainsey are the likely trade candidates…The Avalanche wish to retain Paul Stastny but Garrioch believes he could be moved if the Avs get an offer of a player and a first round pick.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: If the Rangers remain in playoff contention I doubt they move Girardi or fellow UFA Ryan Callahan…Unless Miller has expressed a willingness to re-sign with the Sabres they must move him for the possible best return…Glencrosss has a no-movement clause plus he’s on injured reserve (ankle) and isn’t expected to return until sometime in February. Besides, he plays with the truculence Brian Burke prefers in his players…The Hurricanes probably aren’t done dealing but they’re not trading just anyone. Skinner’s not going anywhere. Blueliners Justin Faulk, Ryan Murphy and goaltender Cam Ward won’t be dealt…Wouldn’t be surprised if the Coyotes are interested in Moulson, but they won’t be the only team…Given the Avs performance this season, I think they’ll retain Stastny and try to re-sign him to a more affordable contract this summer.

Oilers shopping Sam Gagner?

Oilers shopping Sam Gagner?

CBC.CA: Elliotte Friedman reports there’s talk the Edmonton Oilers could shop center Sam Gagner. Neither the team or Gagner’s agent would comment. Gagner signed a new three-year contract last summer but lack no-trade protection, though GM Craig MacTavish promised he wouldn’t be traded. Friedman believes it’s a situation where they try to work with Gagner to work out something to his satisfaction.  Friedman also said there was no meeting between Rangers management and Michael Del Zotto’s reps yesterday but it’s believed there will be some sort of informal conversation between the two sides.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The asking price for Gagner could be a top-two defenseman, especially if the Oilers package him package with their 2014 first round pick (which could be first overall) and perhaps a prospect…Del Zotto will be traded once the Rangers lower their asking price.

TORONTO STAR: Damien Cox believes the Maple Leafs recent acquisition of Tim Gleason will be their last until the March trade deadline. He also dismissed recent trade rumors about Nazem Kadri, claiming he’s no more available now than he was at the start of this season.

NEW YORK POST: Larry Brooks reports the Leafs have expressed interested in Rangers defenseman Michael Del Zotto but noted Jake Gardiner and Cody Franson (who’d been mentioned as potential parts of a swap for Del Zotto) played poorly against the Rangers on Saturday and “do not excite the Rangeers as return in a potential trade.”

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I don’t doubt the Leafs kicked the tires on Del Zotto but after acquiring Tim Gleason I believe their focus will be more on their scoring now. Gardiner or Franson for Del Zotto would be a sideways move for the Leafs.

TRIBLIVE.COM: Rob Rossi reports Pittsburgh Penguins GM Ray Shero won’t be looking for a rental player if he goes shopping for help before this year’s trade deadline. Rossi noted rumors the Winnipeg Jets could part with Evander Kane but there’s been no talks between Shero and Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff about Kane.  Shero isn’t actively looking to trade Olli Maatta but the promising blueliner is the player the Penguins GM expects most willing trade partners could ask for.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I don’t believe Shero parts with Maatta.  As for Shero’s rumored interested in the Jets, maybe his interest is in Blake Wheeler or Andrew Ladd, though I doubt the Jets part with either guy. Landing more than a mere rental player will be expensive for Shero.

DENVER POST: Adrian Dater wonders about center Ryan O’Reilly’s future with the Colorado Avalanche, pointing out it could take a qualifying offer of $6.5 million to retain his services beyond this season. Dater noted the contract squabbles between the O’Reilly camp last season before they matched the Flames offer sheet plus the fact they can trade him on February 28th, which would be the one year anniversary when they matched that offer.  He wonders if the Avs will retain O’Reilly and try to re-sign him or move him.  Dater also noted the NY Rangers scouted the recent Avalache-Sharks games.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: As Dater observed, it would be foolish for the Avalanche to move O’Reilly anytime soon. Yes, it’ll be expensive to re-sign him and they’ll be paying for the sins of the previous management but I believe they’ll do it simply because he’s too valuable to lose. 

NEWSDAY/BOSTON GLOBE: Arthur Staple and Fluto Shinzawa speculated over the future of NY Islanders defenseman Andrew MacDonald, who’s an unrestricted free agent this summer and is enjoying a strong performance this season. He’s seventh in the league in average ice time (25:58) and leads the league in blocked shots (143).

SPECTOR’S NOTE: MacDonald doesn’t get much attention playing for the moribund Islanders but he’ll be among this summer’s most pursued defensemen. He’s 27, plays well at both ends of the ice and would make an excellent second-pairing defenseman on a strong team. The Islanders have surprised their critics in the recent past by re-signing key players believed destined for free agency. Expect them to push hard to retain their top defenseman.


  1. Neither …Franson , Gardiner OR Del Zotto were impressive …only reason to deal is to make a deal …there is no help or change there if anything happens …as Lyle said a sideways deal for the sake of a shake up!

    Shero is running out of young talent to trade for rental players …from this season they have a deep farm team and it looks as if those players are ready and can make an impact better than to have to move any of them …it may be better to develop and keep contracts lower on entry level deals than to go out and get a UFA at the end of his rope or too expensive to re sign !

    LMAO …..Pulling the shoot…in other words I would love to waive my no trade ..GET ME OUT OF HERE !!LOL…I say he goes to Vancouver his father is part of the organization and Van needs better depth in Center …and they may have a piece on the back end to part with for the Oilers !

    I would move Stastny and use the money and position to retain OReilly ..instead longer term ..That still leaves you with 3 first line Centers in McKinnon , Duchesne and Orielly …Landeskog can switch with Mckinnon when needed,Stastny has been playing well …it might make sense to run him into the playoffs and then make a deal before July 1st or let him go UFA.

    I would make a trade with the Islanders if I was Nonis for McDonald moving out Reimer and another piece and draft pick in a multi player deal and acquiring Vanek as well…….keep McDonald ….then Flip Vanek and Kadri to Wild for Charlie Coyle !
    3rd transaction would be to trade Gardiner for Kuhdobin from Carolina …bring up Grandberg and McWilliams put Ranger and Fraser on waivers

    • Wow more nonsense surprise! Landeskog plays left wing on a different line than McKinnon, How do you suggest trying to get Vanek? JVR and a first round pick? Because thats going to be atleast around the cost you would be looking at to get Vanek .then flip Vanek and Kadri for Coyle so basically trade Kadri JVR and a first round pick for Coyle?

      • Mckinnon has played wing at various times of the year and Landeskog has played center at times as well in transition games …what I am saying is that it will be at no loss to move Stastny as they have players to fill that role on the top 3 lines …and at worst Landy can fill in at center if they ever wanted to move McKinnon to the wing for a change up which makes Stastny expendable.

      • Never said anything about JVR …you seem to know everything Shticky so that’s what you said not me !!

        There are always deals to be made with other players and the Islanders will take First rounders as well …there big need is a Goalie so that has lots of weight in the deal with another piece or 1A prospect and first rounder !

        • Ok even better substitue a couple first round picks for Vanek then flip him and Kadri for Coyle so basically 2 firsts at the very least and Kadri (for a total of 3 first round picks) for Coyle? Vanek is not going to be cheap no matter how you cut the cake.
          And the trade for Khudobin? Give up Gardiner for a back up goalie…can never have enough of those.

          • Vanek isn’t going anywhere – we all know he is going to walk away at the end of the season and play for the Wild. Maybe the Islanders get something for him, but I don’t really see any team giving up much for him.

      • Thanks Shticky…took the words off my keyboard.

        Snow isn’t just going to give Vanek away..not after the backlash and lost chemistry of losing Moulson. I bet he would do a “redo” on the trade and not make it.

        Backchecking….you make more moves than the whole league everyday for the Leafs….

        I can see them trading a player and a pick for a rental, and letting that rental go to UFA.

        Nonis is known for moving very slow…he isn’t going to make a flurry of moves and blow up half his roster for what you have suggested.

        To put it in plain English….your ideas are very dumb.

        • Not to jump on top here, but I don’t understand why you would waive Ranger and Fraser? They are worth at least a late round pick from somebody.

          I too struggle to see the value of all those trades, especially if you are only flipping Vanek. I bet if you went direct to the Wild and offered Kadri for Coyle you would be able to make that deal without the rest of the dance.

    • Wow, so the Isles give away Amac (just noted to be a VERY valuable defenceman) and Vanek (an elite winger) for the Leafs backup goalie and some stuff. Perhaps a first rounder you say in a draft that looks pretty shallow and some mysterious prospect (which the Leafs aren’t real deep in). Interesting to say the least given how little goalies have fetched over the last year or so. Heck the Leafs gave up a back up goalie, a scrub and a mid round pick for Bernier.

      Here’s an equally reasonable counter from an isles fan. The Leafs send Bernier, JVR, and Lupul to the Isles for Nabokov, Carkner, and a mid round pick.

  2. BC do you live in Colorado ?

    • Mars…

      • Wow. Thought for sure it was Colorado as he seems as high as a kite ! I usually just laugh but getting Vanek and then flipping him and Kadri for Coyle ??? I wonder if he is related to JFJ ??

  3. I believe Cox’s is right that Toronto will not make another move until the trade deadline. I also think it will not be Nonis making that move or Carlyle coaching at that point. Leiweke inherited Nonis and Carlyle and they are not his guys. Of course he extended Nonis after making the playoffs because the Leafs can afford buy outs. Leiweke has said in many interviews and even this year that Wayne Gretzky is the guy he goes to still for hockey advice. Gretzky will be the GM of the Leafs by next year and Nonis will be GM of the Flames next year. So on that note who know who Gretzky will trade or keep for the Leafs but make my words if the Leafs fall below that wild card spot they are hanging on to Nonis and Carle will be gone.

    The Rangers can hold their breath until the turn blue like thier shirts they will not get a top 4 dman for him. It makes no sense. They migght be able to get a 3-4 line forward or a 5-7th dman in return or a 2-4th round pick.

    Shero is always giving up the future for a rental how did Iggy help last year?

    Miller will not resign in Buffalo that ship has sailed I’m sure he wants to at least try to land in the US West Coast.

    My question is with Talbot playing so great and better then the King this year why did the Rangers sign him to the long term contract. Maybe the Ranger can trade the King to the Flyers or something.

    • Miller has stated that if the team is still doing what they are doing he is gone. The only way he will stay is if he sees real changes happening.

      So…..take care Miller. We wish you all the best.

      • For the life of me I cant see that being the return for Miller tho. Its an awful high return for any goalie. Especially with the way the goalie market is shaping up, nothing against Miller.

    • I certainly hope you are right about Gretzky. He would ensure many more Cup-less years for the Laffs. As Head of Hockey Operation in Phoenix he surrounded himself with sycophants and lead the team into mediocrity.

    • JonB – I hear what your saying and at one time I would have agreed with you about Miller leaving. But now I think there is a real good chance that Miller resigns with Buffalo. First off, new management has included Miller in their discussions on the future of the team – something he was pissed off about with Darcy. They have also expressed their desire that they want him to stay – again, something that wasn’t done by Darcy. Secondly, When I look at West Coast Teams (that is where he wants to go) they are all pretty loaded up at Goalie – with good quality young guns. Miller wants to play and even offering a home town discount to go west, its still gonna cost a team. I see Buffalo trading Enroth, keeping Miller and have him mentor Hackett.

      • That would be the ideal situation. Enroth is able to go every where. He could go to Edm or Cal and be part of a decent package in return.
        I guess it depends on how quickly the team can start to turn it around.

    • No offense, but why would the Flyers take the King, when Mason is playing very well, at a much lower cap hit? The Flyers need to upgrade their defense.

    • if gretzky is named gm of the leafs….. let the losing and mediocrity continue
      the nhl superstars and the greats in the game don’t make great coach ,or gm’s so it won’t work there……if the leafs wnat to hire a gm hire pierre macguire he’ll turn things around for them

      • I wish the Leafs or someone else would hire McGuire as their GM. Then we wouldn’t have to listen to his aggravating commentary any longer.

  4. No way Nonis gets canned in 2014. Maybe 2015. He is done trading until after the Olympic freeze.
    Carlyle will get canned sometime in 2014 after the Leafs miss the post season.

    • Ehh Im not so sure Nonis is done trading just yet, depends on how they play the next week or so and if they have another game or 2 like last night Im not sure Carlyle doesn’t take the bullet. One thing is for sure and I agree with no matter what happens this will be a different looking team after the deadline one way or another.

      • It would be nice I just think it’s harder to make trades these days unless you are considering 3rd and 4th line forwards and 6th, 7th D men. Nonis is a “play it safe” guy as you can see with the Dion, Boz, Kessel contracts and the lack of big trades. I’d say he’s done and really doubt you see a blockbuster of any kind from him.

        • Im not sure Id say blockbuster type deals, but I am willing to bet as much as Cox dosent think Kadri is available, he is for the right deal. Same as Gardiner Kuli, Franson and Reimer (possibly Raymond, he is a UFA) They are all pretty significant pieces to the team currently. And I think atleast 1or 2 (Not sure all of them would but ya never know) get moved and as far as timing goes, Im not sure anyone has timetables in their head as far as trades go. It just depends on how the team is doing.

          • If Gleason comes in and plays well the that is one crowded blueline having 8 D on the roster when you think they are looking for some scoring.

          • Agreed but I think Dave is looking to get his socks knocked off for one of those guys so I can see him standing pat when the offers don’t come in anywhere near his asking price. Guess we will see

        • One last thing about Nonis playing it safe…he is the same guy who went out got Luongo got the job here and took a chance on another backup in Bernier traded away an awful lot for a third line center in Bolland and even tho its looking like its going to bite him signed Clarkson to that ridiculous long term deal. Im not so sure he is not a bit of a gambler type GM and maybe not quite so patient as he or others let on.

  5. Anyway what about maybe the Oil send Gagner and a pick to Phx for Yandle. Seems like it could work for both teams, gives the Yotes a better second line center than Vermette and some scoring, gives the Oilers a way better top pairing guy than they have now salaries balance out etc.

    • Not bad, Shticky! I could definitely see that one being a possibility.

    • Unless the ‘Yotes have fallen out of the Wildcard hunt come the playoffs I don’t see them moving Yandle. If they did move Yandle I think it might take the Oilers 1st round along with Gagner to make that happen.

  6. Rangers
    I think the reason slather is looking for d for d swap is because he thinks girardi is gone. If he doesn’t get another comparable defense in return for del zotto next years defense group looks a lot different with no girardi no delzotto and a questionable Marc staal
    Why bother throwing out suggestions for this team. I would hate to be a fan because it would be so frustrating. A group of such high potential needing the right moves to finish it off just isn’t happening. Much the same for the oilers. Who just need to bite the bullet and trade one of their young forwards to shake things up and actually try building “a team”

    I think after this season if they don’t make the playoffs Carlyle is gone. He has had a lot of say in the players brought in and obviously how they are being used. For whatever reason a lot of players have not stepped up as hoped and maybe that is a coaching problem. Yes injuries and suspensions seem to be never ending but come on the inconsistency is getting unbearable to watch. I actually hope gunnerson is out a couple games so we can see another partner for phanuef as like it or not dion is here for a few years and need to find a legit partner for him. Maybe putting a gardiner or Franson with him will force them to up there game. As for trades I’m just not sure who is possibly out there that is a fit. What is the needs. #1 centre and #1-2 defense? Who are they

    • As an Isles fan you’re bang on about the frustration. A lot of potential and some very good pieces in place now. Seems like a lot of talent in the pipeline but none of it is the goalie they really need. Should have made the move to get Schneider, Bishop, or Bernier, none of whom really fetched that big a return. The defence is thin and inconsistent and the forwards are mostly young and inconsistent. Some incredible looking D prospects on the way (Reinhart, Pullock, Pokke (sp?), etc) but it will take time for them to develop.

      No Leaf fans I don’t actually believe that Reimer is the solution (too many rebounds and the Isles defence is actually worse than the Leafs). I understand that we all tend to overvalue our own players/prospects but given what the goalies mentioned above went for I can’t see the Leafs getting a whole lot for their backup or the Sabres getting what they apparently want for a pending UFA.

  7. Nonis has, I believe, one more chance with his job. He struck out with Clarkson, he struck out with MacArthur and Grabovski buyouts, striking out with keeping Ranger and Fraser up, struck out in Clarkson signing. The absolute only thing that is saving his butt now, is Bernier.

    I believe we’ll see a pretty big trade within 2 weeks from now. But if Nonis really wants to save his job, he’ll put Ranger and Fraser in the minors and make a couple-few minor trades (draft picks or prospects) to shed some salary, then make a big splash to acquire ROR after Feb. 28th. This is a young centerman who is only getting better and would be our legit 1C. If Nonis fails on this front, he is gone and we welcome Gretzky as our new GM.

    • How did Nonis strike out with MacArthur and Grabovski? To keep Grabovskj happy at all probably have to get rid of Carlyle. MacArthur can be replaced by anyone on your roster. He adds secondary scoring that’s all.

      You can forget about your fantasy of Toronto landing ROR. You must be a Leafs fan living in Colorado smoking that legalized weed. If any centres going to get traded from the Avs it’s Statsny.

  8. *My apologies, wasn’t paying any attention, I mentioned ‘Clarkson’ twice in the beginning of the post

    • That signing was so bad it should be mentioned twice. …….JK

      • @NYR4LIFE

        Lol right on the money my friend. Almost as bad as that Leino signing.

        • Sad thing is, Bflo can buy out Leino – I don’t think TO can buy out Clarkson – they are stuck until 2020,

          • Really? Don’t they have buyouts left?

  9. Leaf fans are so impatient. You’re still in a WC slot and just acquired a solid defensive dman. The lineup is starting to get healthy. I don’t think this is a Stanley Cup contender, but champions aren’t built overnight.

    • Making the playoffs once in a decade can do that to ya…lol

    • Getting healthy, Gunnarsson and Clarkson got injured last night.

    • Liddy5 yes the Leafs are still hanging on to a playoff spot but you obviously don’t watch many of their games. This team has got out shot badly almost every night. The defence is dreadful. The only reason we are in a playoff spot is because Reimer and Bernier have been really good most games. Carlyle has been saying since game one and even when they were winning to start the season the team was not listening to him. I think he’s a good coach but the team has not done what he has asked all season. I personally think Nonis is a great GM but I know Leiweke who is the president of MLSE calls Gretzky for advice on all hockey matters which he stated in an interview about a month ago. Nonis was already the GM when Leiweke took over so he is not his man. Leiweke likes star power that is why Drake is a PR guy for the Raptors. Finnally I do think the Leafs have a good core of players. Lupul, Kessel, JVR, Bolland, Raymond, Bozak, and Phaneuf are great players but we need better defence than Ranger, Gardiner, Franson, and Fraser. Not to mention Orr is useless and doesn’t fight anymore. Kulemin is getting paid way to much for what 3 or 4 goals. Kadri can be good some nights but he is a ghost or takes dumb penalties most nights. He is still young but he keeps failing most times when given the ice time. Clarkson is a huge bust and Toronto should just try to trade him to Edmonton at this point.

  10. Concerning the Leafs, my personal opinion goes in 3 moves:
    1) Package something including Franson or Gardiner and picks/prospects to get a top 4 defensive defenceman (someone in the ilk of Brooks Orpik). Only one of Gardiner or Franson should stay.
    2) If Kadri is in a sophmore slump then keep him. If he is not going to be the top C you crave package him and whatever for an improvement at centre. He still has time so don’t give up on him unless you get a Ryan O’Reilly or legit top C (not Sam Gagner from EDM).
    3) Consider replacing Carlyle. This team is “improved” (on paper) and is not playing as well as last year. Its either injuries or tuning the coach out.
    The only other consideration is see if you can hold on till Bolland comes back to re-assess. They are either not as good as everyone expects or thinks they are, or they really miss Bolland.

    • Being a Buffalo fan, I don’t really want to help out TO, but evidently it seems Carlyle is unhappy with Kadri. This isn’t the first coach he’s had problems with – Eakins, Wilson and now Carlyle which speaks volumes of Kadri’s character. What might work out is a Grigorenko for Kadri scenario. Nolan is a player’s coach and he may be able to “right Nasim’s ship” and Grigorenko has the potential to be a top 6 Centerman. A change of environment might just be what’s needed for both players.

      • As a Sabres fan, I’ll keep Grigs and move him to someone like the Avs to get RoR. Instead of Kadri. The kids a mess and isn’t going to not be a Pain in the A$$.
        Sabres don’t need that mess.

        • Starting to look that way agreed…I think its cured with a day or 2 of being a healthy scratch to get his head screwed on straight, no denying his talent tho.

        • The man, I thought about a trade to CO for ROR cause Grigorenko has played for Roy and they know each other. Bflo could also sweeten the pie with a D man.

          • What defensemen? None of our young guns.

            Pysyk, Myers, Zadorov, Ristolainen and McCabe are off limits.

            That leaves McNabb, Sulzer, Ruhwedel, McBain, Tallinder and Ehrhoff.

      • Are you nuts Steve? Nolan would murder Kadri. We already have a 2nd line center at best in Hodgson and with him there’s absolutely no reason for Kadri.

        I agree with the Man_Oss and try to nab ROR but doubt he’d be available.

        • Ehh not saying a good trade but Nolan is a players coach who is pretty good with young guys. He might be able to get Kadri going.

  11. I think a package like this would suffice for ROR:

    To Toronto: ROR
    To Colorado: Bozak + Kadri + 2nd rounder

    Our 4C’s will look like:

    1C – ROR
    2C – Bolland
    3C – Holland
    4C – McClement

    • Colorado does not need Kadri or bozak as they already have to 4 top 2 centers. Maybe franson ++. But I doubt they get rid of ROR as when Roy came in he’s seems to have liked ROR.

      • On a team like Colorado, Bozak is a temporary 2C, Kadri a 4C. The current depth chart if this were to happen, would look like:

        1C – Duchene
        2C – Stastny
        2C – Bozak
        3C – MacKinnon
        4C – Kadri

        After this season, Colorado can trade Kadri for a valuable asset, as he’d be in his contract year and cheap. Colorado can trade Stastny for dmen assets this season. Next season, their 4 C’s could look like:

        1C – Duchene
        2C – MacKinnon
        3C – Bozak
        4C – Mitchell

        • I know it’s “fantasy talk” and we are all just making our arm chair gm suggestions, but how many 3 way deals or trade for this guy to use him in another deal happen? Been awhile if memory serves me right. Avs could get a guaranteed defenseman instead of another center and taking a chance on a team being interested in Kadri after they give up a huge piece in ROR

          • Also if kadri gets moved I could see a team like Winnipeg, Phoenix, Nashville being the destination.

    • Would be sweet but doubt Boz will waive is no trade and double doubt Col wants his salary for their third line center position and why would Col want 2 centers when they currently have a boat load or are you thinking Kadri to the wing?

    • Again I’m just gonna say wow. So a legit top line centre for Bozak (who Nonis overpayed for so has an unappealing contract), Kadri (real questinomark whether he ever really gets it or not), and a 2nd rounder in a weak draft year?

      You actually have to give talent to get talent. If you’re going to get someone like ROR then there will be other teams in the mix and they will likely offer players the Avs actually want to keep. Anytime you think about picking up a star player you need to think that a star or potential star is headed in the other direction. They may like a winger like Lupul or JVR as part of a package. Throw in a very solid D man (given the consensus seems to be that the Leafs defence isn’t all that good it would need to be one of the better ones, not some cast off) and you may have the makings of a deal.

  12. Hey backchecking, check you facts straight before post drivel. Dave Gagner is no longer with the Canucks organization as he resigned. He’s with an agency but I can’t remember which one.

    • I think its Bobby Orr’s if I remember correctly.

  13. I’m a huge Sabres fan and IMO 3 prospects and a 1st is waaaaaaay to much for MIller. Especially seeing that he is a UFA. Maybe something like…

    2nd rounder, Adam, Stafford and Miller for 1st, Rattie and Halak or Elliott (If It’s Elliott you’d definitely have to throw in another prospect or draft pick)

    • I think they are asking the moon, hoping they get a few stars. It’s no where near realistic, but if someone is interested in haggling…..

  14. I really like the suggestion of Phoenix going after Moulson and if they are in the playoff hunt it would make sense. They have Riberio but nobody for him to shovel the puck to. I could see a deal like this:

    To Phoneix: Matt Moulson
    To Buffalo: 1st Round, Lucas Lessio

    The Sabres get a 1st round pick for their rebuild efforts along with a decent potential scoring forward. The Coyotes address their need for more offense without having to give up Keith Yandle and improve their top 6.

    Moulson – Riberio – Vrbata
    Boedker – Vermette – Doan

    If they truly at that point felt they needed more I would be making one of these two calls.

    1. To Colorado and offer Yandle for ROR + 3rd
    2. To Edmonton and offer Yandle + Vermette for Ganger, Petry, 1st

  15. I hate to say it but if ROR gets moved I think buffalo has the best chance at getting him. They have too much to offer a team looking to make a push in the playoffs. Miller Ott Moulson Tallinder Grigorenko other dmen. I see everyone on their team available except Girgensons zadorov ristolainen McCabe and their 1st round picks.

  16. how about toronto does this….

    trade kadri, phaneuf, kuli, lupal, reimer, raymond, franson, bozak, clarkson, bolland etc….for draft picks and start from scratch again.
    i’m a leafs fan but this team is not good enough. maybe they end up being first round fodder…maybe, if we are lucky. if we are not good enough to win then try again.

    • Ya lets be the Oilers, Panthers Bluejackets for another 5-7 years then maybe lucky enough to put together a couple draft picks and then be a cusp team like the Avs or Lightning with a brighter future in the next 3-4 years after that….hey Im down for another decade with out watching another Leaf play off game.

      What would be the point in doing this now? Waiting for a top 5 pick to draft a stud defensive prospect?…we have one of those, A top goal scorer? Check…some good Goalies? Double check…the team needs some pieces agreed a d man a center, but it takes time to build there is no point in blowing up one of the youngest teams in the league. Tones of talent maybe not using it, but the core of a good hockey team is here and a very young and pretty decent farm system with defensive prospects…give it time.

  17. Honestly if Shero is looking to trade with the Jets I really don’t feel it’s gonna be over Kane, Wheeler, or Ladd. Kane isn’t gonna be moved due to the fact he is the jets franchise and only will be moved if they are committed to going in a new direction (which I don’t see happening) but Shero would and will inquire. Wheeler in my opinion isn’t going to be worth the asking price and same can be said for Ladd as well considering they are a depth forward at best. My pick is one that has been rumored before and I feel could be a missing piece on the pens roster, Devin Setoguchi. I do believe that Shero was very interested in bringing him in before when the Wild where moving him but felt the current asking price at the time was a bit much. Now that he played himself into affordable asking price and with just the right amount of cap space available, now might be the time to make the move.

    Honestly I see devin being moved for not much more then a third/fourth round pick. I see him being very successful in a team like Pittsburgh with the chance to be on Crosby or Malkin’s line. Plus he would not necessarily be classified as a rental sense he is in a contract year and could sign one that could work for both the pens and him if he fits in like I suspect he will.