Updates on the Islanders, Red Wings & Flyers – April 16, 2017

by | Apr 16, 2017 | Rumors | 31 comments

The future of New York Islanders captain John Tavares remains a hot topic in the NHL rumor mill.

Latest on John Tavares plus more speculation on the Detroit Red Wings and Philadelphia Flyers in your Sunday NHL rumor roundup.

NEWSDAY: Arthur Staple reports New York Islanders owners Scott Malkin and Jon Ledecky year-long search for a new president of hockey operations either failed to turn up a suitable candidate or they were impressed by the club’s solid second-half under GM Garth Snow and interim coach (now head coach) Doug Weight.

Staple believes re-signing John Tavares to a long-term contract extension is foremost on the owners’ minds. They had courted Tavares’ agent Pat Brisson  this season and keeping them informed about the club’s future home, front office and more.

Tavares will reportedly let the club know of his intentions in a few weeks. Staple believes it’ll take an eight-year deal worth $10 million annually to retain the Isles captain. If unable to re-sign Tavares, Snow could shop him this summer. 

Staple also thinks the Isles need a second-line center, they could move an established defenseman as well as lose one in the expansion draft, their goaltending still isn’t stable and they must make room for for prospects Mathew Barzal and Josh Ho-Sang in their opening-night roster for next season. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Tavares can officially re-sign on July 1 as he’s a year away from UFA status by then. I expect the Tavares trade speculation will start ramping up again by mid-May and build to a frenzy heading into the NHL Draft weekend (June 23-24) if there’s no indication they can get a deal done before then. 

If they need to trade an established blueliner, Nick Leddy or Travis Hamonic could be used to bring in that second-line center. Johnny Boychuk has a no-movement clause and must agree to be dealt.

The goaltending must be addressed, either via free agency or trade. They cannot return for another season with the troika of Jaroslav Halak, Thomas Greiss and J-F Berube. 

MLIVE.COM: Ansar Khan recently examined possible offseason moves by the Detroit Red Wings. He felt winger Tomas Tatar and Gustav Nyquist must step up their production next season, assuming they’re still with the club as one of them could be used as a trade chip to land a top-three defenseman.

Landing that type of blueliner is a priority. Kevin Shattenkirk of the Washington Capitals is the best available in this summer’s unrestricted free agent market, but Khan doubted he’ll sign with a team that finished 25th overall this season. He pointed out the Wings pursue Anaheim’s Cam Fowler and Winnipeg’s Jacob Trouba in the past. He wondered if they might revisit their interest in either guy this summer, though it could cost the Wings one of their top young forwards.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I doubt the Wings can land Shattenkirk, Fowler or Trouba, but this summer’s expansion draft could create opportunities for land a good young defenseman via trade, perhaps by dangling Tatar or Nyquist. The Carolina Hurricanes could also be a trade option. They have depth in young blueliners that could interest the Wings and need some scoring punch at forward.

PHILLY.COM:  Sam Carchidi reports a revolving door of left wings contributed to Philadelphia Flyers’ center Claude Giroux’s sub-par performance this season. He believes finding a top-line left wing with size could be on GM Ron Hextall’s offseason wish list. 

SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Toronto Maple Leafs could be left wing (and former Flyer) James van Riemsdyk on the trade block this summer if unable to re-sign him to a contact extension this summer. The Leafs, however, need a good young top-four blueliner and could ask for Ivan Provorov in return. The Buffalo Sabres could be looking for takers for Evander Kane. 









31 Comments

  1. Happy leafster.

    Probarov gets more than jvr. Not sure anyone but Mathews would pry him away. Now nylander and a pick? Maybe.

    • Provorov is the Flyers’ top prospect. They might deal Sam Morin or Travis Sanheim for JVR, but, if they really thought that JVR was a good left wing option, they never would have traded him in the first place.

      • Different GM (Holmgren) traded JVR. Hextall wasn’t part of the team back then (2012).

      • lots of players have returned to their original teams. some on multiple occasions… vrbata?

      • if they didn’t think he was a good enough winger they were obviously wrong. if you were Philadelphia would you complete that same trade again? Schenn was expected to be better than he turned out, JVR wasn’t expected to be as good as he turned out. This happens when you trade young players sometimes.

      • Hagmen I would give up n a high pick like 5rd

  2. Leafs aren’t getting provorov for JVR.
    I could see Evandor Kane for a young dman not named provorov and a pick

  3. JT can agree in principal to a deal with Isles. Deal then signed on July 1st. This could happen in the next few weeks thus putting an end to speculation. It the teams best interest to make it happen and make it happen yesterday.

  4. Provorov???? Hahahaha. So anyway, got anything else?

    • Yes I too think it’s funny how some think a prospect is worth more than a solid regular full time top six winger who can skate and score. I wish I had a dollar for every bright new prospect that flames out after a couple of years. In the real world, there is nothing more valuable than consistency – when ability is already factored.

      • Well said Ron.

      • Provorov is not a prospect. Had a great first year under his belt. In fact I guarantee the flyers would not trade him one for one for Morgan Riley. A deal the leafs would do all day.

      • I think the reason Toronto doesn’t get that prospect straight up is that JVR only have a year left. If it were a sign and trade it would be different. I wouldn’t trade my top prospect for someone with one your left, that’s the kind of thing that got Toronto into the trouble they were in for years. Though the tone of the comments above makes it sound at the prospect is worth more than a 27-year-old winger who scores around 30 goals every year, which is nonsensical. Depends what stage a Team is at though. Would Toronto trade a prospect for someone 27 years old? Probably not. Would Washington? Maybe, they are definitely a win now team. What stage is Philadelphia at? I don’t know what they would do.

      • AS a GM I don’t think you can settle on consistency, you need to have confidents and be willing to fail. Iginla was in the WHL when Calgary traded Nieuwendyk to Dallas for him. A trade that turned out well for both teams as Nieuwendyk won a cup with Dallas and Iginla had a good career in Calgary. Just one example.

      • Scott, I think you’re right that Philadelphia wouldn’t make that trade for Reilly… but Toronto would not make that trade either. It is possible for both teams to value the player they have.

      • I would hardly say Provorov is a prospect. He clearly became the Flyers #1 dman as the year went on.

        He is a special player, and would be untouchable at this point.

  5. I don’t think Provorov,Morin,San him, or Myers gets traded for anyone anytime soon.Now maybe Robert Hagg and a pick.

    • Morin and Sanheim weren`t even good enough for a late season look see for a team with a crap defence. That says a lot as far as their development goes, especially Morin. Hagg and Phillies 1st still won`t get you much.

      • Lets not take into account the fact the Phantoms where on a playoff push, and both Morin and Hagg did get called up. They both looked great, and the fan base is even more excited.

  6. Tavares wants 8yrs 10m, that’s a lot of cap space. Certainly won’t get the trade value with one year left. I imagine as a player it isn’t to much fun, not knowing what city your team is playing, must that and everything else (over the years)make him want out? I think NY is handcuffed and must swallow, unless they can do a sign and trade.

    • All day Scott? Not today, not tomorrow, have u been watching Rielly? Young Guns team in World Cup? Washington series? Why would they do that!? Add a good young player like Provorov, for sure, but for a 23 yr old puck moving dman that’s elevating his game and signed for 5 more years? Not happening

  7. Definitely, Definitely not Provorov or Hagg. Maybe McDonald or Manning.

    • Provo for JVR? NFW.
      I’m surprised you even said that…
      From every angle and at every stage of his devo, Provo looks to be an elite D-man in the making.

      • Well you give us a shout IF he ever makes to that level, right now he isn`t even close AND BOY I WISH I HAD A DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME SOME ONE MADE THAT STATEMENT, that and he`s a stud. Not saying he won`t become a bona fide #1, but until he does

  8. JVR is an established scoring left winger that will probably get 6-7 million on the open market but to have control to go to a contender might get the price down. I think the Leafs will keep him if he signs for six million? Their better move might be Bozak and a pick to the Isles for a dman? If a team values a consistent scoring winger the Leafs might get a Trouba-like player for him but I still think they will have to add at least a pick or prospect.

    I think the best options for the Leafs are Gudbranson, Dumba or Manson and those teams may be more inclined to take picks and/or prospects. Teams have shown interest in Leivo but he won’t get a dman straight up so something substantial needs to be added.

    • As much as I like JVR`s scoring ability and his size, for him to stay in Toronto his cap hit has to stay under 6 mill. The cap isn`t going to go up a lot over the next few years and any deal for JVR over 6 may quickly become a headache for Toronto or any team. We can`t keep them all. If he was a little bit more physical, then 6 or 6+ would be more worth the gamble

      • You haven’t paid attention much to Provo this year, that much is clear. I agree that people over rate their prospects, but this time it’s true. There is not one part of his game that you can call bad.

        Hextall would be run out of town if he traded JVR for Provo straight up.

  9. Flyers are not moving Provorov just like the Bruins will not move McAvoy or Carlo good D men are hard to get.

  10. From local Philly reports, the young Flyers D prospects didnt get an extended look because Hextall wanted them yo get the experience of the playoff push with the Phantoms. Injuries necessitated Morin & Hagg each coming up for a game apiece. The Flyers have been in cap hell last 2 seasons and to bring in a JVR type they will need to clear a little more space while still keeping a little wiggle room cap wise. Now if Vegas snags a player like Matt Read that would help. Hagg n Morin are the 2 projected to make the team next year which would leave Sanheim & Myers as possible bait an JVR would have to have an extension JULY 1st (when he is eligible to sign 1). Also, Hextall likes his high round picks to develop

  11. There is only one player on TO the flyers would move provorov for.. One. Pretty sure the leafs are not trading Matthews so the discussion is pointless. Btw, Provorov is flat out one of the best young dmen in hockey at the age of 20.

    Right or wrong, the flyers never liked jvr from the day they drafted him. They are not trading any of morin, sanheim or Myers for him.

    Anyone who thinks Provorov is a prospect or Jvrs value is equivalent clearly does not pay attention to this league.

    • Thanks for the education. Thank God you’re watching the league and sharing your insights.